[kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Thu Jul 12 17:22:57 EDT 2007


There actually IS a direct link to an archetype in the Jungian sense,
suprised none of you other hippies noticed.

Robert Anton Wilson covers this archetype in Cosmic Trigger Vol 1: Final
Secret of the Illuminati, a brilliant read that is a lot more and a lot
less out there than the title suggests.

He calls the archetype Mescalito, from memory (book is in storage
otherwise I'd scan or transcribe the page where he goes into it), the
entity that often appears to people under the influence of Peyote (hence
Mescalin hence Mescalito), and psilocybin mushrooms. He says the archetype
comes through in popular culture in other forms such as the Leprechaun, Dr
Spock (!), Peter Pan...from memory. Mischevious and playful, as in your
dream.

Here's a sample from the book:

http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.html

Wilson is a must read if you're into the esoteric, conspiracies, science
esp physics, politics, sociology, philosophy, economics, utopianism,
theology, Crowley, Discordianism, Leary, altered states of consciousness,
Joyce...the breadth and depth of his writing is pretty amazing.







> Maybe the drunk was you? ;)

>

>

>>From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" <gasw30 at hotmail.com>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: [kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

>>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:08:22 +0000

>>

>>I had a dream the other night about getting ripped off by a guy in a bar.

>>My question is: if it’s my dream and this guy is my creation, why didn’t

>> I

>>see it coming?

>>

>>In the dream I was having a drink with a friend and this other guy came

>>over a bit drunk and got talking to us. He was okay and asked me to lend

>>him £5. I did do (which is something I wouldn’t do in real life). Anyway,

>> a

>>little later he sponged a drink off my friend. I thought, why does he

>> need

>>to sponge a drink when I’ve already lent him a fiver?

>>

>>As I was about to put the question to him, he hopped off laughing into

>>dreamland and I woke up feeling thoroughly furious at my gullibility, and

>>confused about why I had no power in a situation created entirely in my

>> own

>>head.

>>

>>Searching for an answer, no matter how New Age, I look to Carl Gustav

>> Jung

>>– whose theories I fail to understand, but it doesn’t matter. I believe

>>this character was some form of archetype with his own will that is not

>>subject to mine. He was a sort of mischieveous Irish leprechaun

>> archetype.

>>W at nker.

>>

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