[kj] Religion/universes

[Neil Perry]

And if I'd read Greg's mail first I wouldn't have bothered with my drivel!
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GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:  It's true that we do look back in time when we look in space (not the kind in BSCrackhead's head), but in terms of the moon, it's so close that we're only looking a few seconds back in time. This time laspse is due to the fact that light travels at a limited speed, so it takes time for the light to reach us. The closest star we can see has light that took 4.3 years to reach us (light-years). Astronomers can see galaxies that are many millions of light-years away. The furthest thing they can see are called "quasars", and they are super-energetic and are thought to be from the early universe. They can also "see" black holes, but only from calculating the gravity they exert on other objects (I think they can also measure bursts of energy that they give off when they suck in matter).



 
  
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From:  "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject:  Re: [kj] Religion/universes
Date:  Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:30:31 +0000

>LOL BONGO ;-D    I should of exsplained it properly,

>

>well the moon that we all view when we look up to the sky,is a moon 

>from the distant past,because we are looking back in time when we 

>look out into the sky at the moon-- stars,and apparently not 

>forward.....so in actual fact,the moon isnt there in our time,but 

>only in past past!!!!

>

>i read this from some astronomy mag....its also the reason that i 

>have never believed that man/woman have  never been to the 

>moon....all thats a lie they tried to sell to us all---the whole 

>thing was staged ;-0

>

>so i guess that all the other planets in our solar system are back 

>in time also,plus some of the other universes----has as a guess,that 

>some our forward in time obviously as well,but well,they are far 

>away,down some worm hole and black hole on the left some where 

>;-D)))

>

>melinda

>

>

>>From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Religion

>>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:07:27 +1300

>>

>>of course its real...its made of  cheese!

>>havent you ever seen wallace and grommet??

>>

>>

>>On 1/19/07, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>back to cell/dna and quantum then ;-)

>>>

>>>melinda   ps what about --the point that we are all also just 

>>>holographic

>>>images,being projected in some way by what we al percieve in our 

>>>minds

>>>eye,and that all we view every day from our surrounds is only a 

>>>projection

>>>of whats in our minds?  and that actually what we see of our 

>>>world,is not

>>>what the true picture is !!!! ;-/  i hate to say this as i love 

>>>the

>>>moon,but,i herd the other day that the moon isnt even  

>>>real.............

>>>

>>>

>>> >From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>

>>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>> >To: gathering at misera.net

>>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Religion

>>> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:20:23 -0500

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >As for the 3rd quote, I wouldn't call evolution (the reason we 

>>>exist)

>>> >random. It is sort of a driving force carried on by chemical and

>>>biological

>>> >events, with some randomness in it.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>>  >From:"Lennonka" <svoje.ja at centrum.cz>

>>> >Reply-To:"A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>> >To:"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>> ><gathering at misera.net>

>>> >Subject:Re: [kj] Religion

>>> >Date:Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:57:17 +0100

>>> > >I agree with the second quote.

>>> > >

>>> > >The third quote is very different from my point of view which 

>>>is -

>>> >Accidents don't exist : )

>>> > >But that doesn't mean that "everything is fixed and you can't 

>>>change

>>>it".

>>> > >Each second, we make decisions which influence all the future 

>>>of  all

>>>the

>>> >world.

>>> > >The misfortune is that only a few is able to notice that - oh 

>>>dear!

>>> > >

>>> > >L

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>>> > > > Komu: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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>>> > > > Datum: 18.01.2007 21:43

>>> > > > P?t: [kj] Religion

>>> > > >

>>> > > >*"Your god is your chain, reject your god reject your 

>>>system"*

>>> > > >**

>>> > > >*"Jesus died for his own sins, not mine"*

>>> > >  >**

>>> > > >*God's are for week primitive minds, now fuck off back to 

>>>your caves

>>> >and

>>> > > >practice your hocus pocus. The only reason we exist is 

>>>because of

>>> >random

>>> > > >events and good fate, nothing more nothing less and when we 

>>>die thats

>>> >it,

>>> > > >food for the worms. *

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>>

>>"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

>>postponed indefinitely..."

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