[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 38, Issue 89

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>    1. Re: Apocalypto- no.23 (Peter Moltesen)

>    2. Re: Apocalypto- no.23 (folk devil)

>    3. [OT] Current - Tunes (folk devil)

>    4. Re: [OT] Current - Tunes (fatpotanga)

>    5. Re: [OT] Current - Tunes (Peter Moltesen)

>    6. Re: news on YouTube - interview with Jaz (James Osborne)

>    7. Re: [OT] Current - Tunes (Leigh Newton)

>    8. Re: [OT] Current - Tunes (Leigh Newton)

>    9. Re: [OT] Current - Tunes (Peter Moltesen)

>   10. Re: [OT] Current - Tunes (James Osborne)

>   11. OT:  A favour please (Rob's Arse)

>   12. Re: The Only Poll (Stephen Robinson)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:16:59 -0000

> From: "Peter Moltesen" <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Apocalypto- no.23

> To: <BSCrack at UltimateEmail.com>, "'A list about all things Killing

> Joke \(the band!\)'" <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID: <20070112211215.B1959105CB at mailwash5.pair.com>

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>

>

> whilst on the subject I looked on Robert Anton Wilson's website

> today and theres a cryptic message that suggests he has passed

> away..... I am very sad

>

> HAIL ERIS

>

> Peter

>

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:24:17 -0800

> From: "folk devil" <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Apocalypto- no.23

> To: gathering at misera.net

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> i dropped this in a message yesterday. No-one cared :(

> I did.

>

>

> >From: "Peter Moltesen" <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >To: <BSCrack at UltimateEmail.com>,"'A list about all things Killing Joke

(the

> >band!)'"<gathering at misera.net>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Apocalypto- no.23

> >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:16:59 -0000

> >

> >

> >

> >whilst on the subject I looked on Robert Anton Wilson's website

> >today and theres a cryptic message that suggests he has passed

> >away..... I am very sad

> >

> >HAIL ERIS

> >

> >Peter

> >

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> Message: 3

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:22:30 -0800

> From: "folk devil" <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>

> Subject: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: gathering at misera.net

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> In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening to

> right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No negative

> poo, music IS subjective :)

>

>

> Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:29:15 +0000

> From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: The Gathering <gathering at misera.net>

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> Fink - Biscuits for breakfast

>

>

> On 12/1/07 21:22, "folk devil" wrote:

>

> > In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening

to

> > right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No

negative

> > poo, music IS subjective :)

> >

> >

> > Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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> Message: 5

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:39:32 -0000

> From: "Peter Moltesen" <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> Coil - Musick to play in the dark volume 1

> Cardiacs - the Garage concerts vols 1 & 2

> Bardo Pond - Ticket Crystals

> Fields of the Nephilim - the Nephilim

>

> all currently being listened to........

>

> Peter

>

>

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

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> Behalf Of folk devil

> Sent: 12 January 2007 21:23

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

> In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening to

> right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No negative

> poo, music IS subjective :)

>

>

> Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered

> by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001

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> Message: 6

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:36:56 -0500

> From: James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] news on YouTube - interview with Jaz

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> Didn't know Jaz actually had a church O_o

>

> Anyway, I was expecting this to be a new interview. It seems to be from

> a little after KJ2003. Oh well, still interesting. Thanks for the link.

>

> Lennonka wrote:

> > Exclusively for the Gathering:

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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32qpySB6OIA

> > and

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyNq9Kdll10

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> > Yours

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> Message: 7

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:42:57 -0800 (PST)

> From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> Magnified by the band Failure

>

> Also, a lot of the tunes that got a mention today (Steppin Out,

Blockbuster, Wichita Lineman)

>

> Leigh

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:22:30 PM

> Subject: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

>

> In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening to

> right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No negative

> poo, music IS subjective :)

>

>

> Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

>

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> Message: 8

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:46:48 -0800 (PST)

> From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> That double live Cardiacs disc is a delicious treat. To Go Off And Things,

Aukamakic and It's A Lovely Day are my faves.

>

> Leigh

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

<gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:39:32 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

>

> Coil - Musick to play in the dark volume 1

> Cardiacs - the Garage concerts vols 1 & 2

> Bardo Pond - Ticket Crystals

> Fields of the Nephilim - the Nephilim

>

> all currently being listened to........

>

> Peter

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

On

> Behalf Of folk devil

> Sent: 12 January 2007 21:23

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

> In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening to

> right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No negative

> poo, music IS subjective :)

>

>

> Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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> Message: 9

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:56:55 -0000

> From: "Peter Moltesen" <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> its really nice to have crisp hiss free versions of those old tunes

> 'As cold as can be in an English Sea' and 'Aukamacic' have been

> playing over and over in my head all day today

>

> Peter

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

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> Behalf Of Leigh Newton

> Sent: 12 January 2007 21:47

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

> That double live Cardiacs disc is a delicious treat. To Go Off And Things,

> Aukamakic and It's A Lovely Day are my faves.

>

> Leigh

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

<gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:39:32 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

>

> Coil - Musick to play in the dark volume 1

> Cardiacs - the Garage concerts vols 1 & 2

> Bardo Pond - Ticket Crystals

> Fields of the Nephilim - the Nephilim

>

> all currently being listened to........

>

> Peter

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

On

> Behalf Of folk devil

> Sent: 12 January 2007 21:23

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

>

> In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening to

> right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No negative

> poo, music IS subjective :)

>

>

> Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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> Message: 10

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:58:18 -0500

> From: James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Current - Tunes

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> I've been listening to Killing Joke, Fugees, Mad Capsule Markets,

> Filter, Mars Volta, Dip, Genesis, Tha Blue Herb, Bob Marley, etc., I

> usually have my Ipod on shuffle in my car. So lots of other random stuff

> too.

>

> folk devil wrote:

> > In light of current discussion, I am curious what people are listening

> > to right now, or what the very last thing they listened to was?? No

> > negative poo, music IS subjective :)

> >

> >

> > Currently listening to - The British Murder Boys

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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> Message: 11

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:08:45 -0800

> From: "Rob's Arse" <joker at Z6.com>

> Subject: [kj] OT:  A favour please

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> Message: 12

> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:37:24 +0000

> From: Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Only Poll

> To: gathering at misera.net

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>

> > Seriously though, imo, any band that has a record contract has lost

> > some element of "sincerity" and purity of art once they are writing

> > songs with the intent of getting radio play or even with the intention

> > of selling records and playing shows to a paying audience. It doesn't

> > matter if they're wearing makeup or a sock on their dicks or just

> > everyday jeans, they're in the music "business."

>

> I got the following text from the end of year send out from VVM, it's not

> short, but I though I'd share it with you,

>

> Is it nearly over ? You can damn sure bet your standing leg it is. One

whole

> year of making free audio, so far well over 500 tracks with the aim now

> being around nearly 600. That is over 5GB of brand new recorded audio in

> MP3 format all given away. free of charge and gratis throughout 2006.

>

> When other musicians next send you a lame fucking mailout saying how they

> have provided a free MP3 or even worse some fucked up myspace preview

which

> sounds like the audio is being dragged through Rupert Murdochs gravelled

> drive send them to me and i'll tell them the real score about freebies and

> how it is to be true to yourself and respectful to your audience. Giving

> the music away does not mean it has no value, on the contrary the value is

> held within the music itself. There will be a change, it won't be anytime

> soon, but there will be a change. People will begin to think less and less

> about what they create in terms of getting a monetary return. Too often i

> read mails from sad twat musicians "oh i can't do anything anymore because

> no-one buys my music so it's not possible to release things... blah, blah,

> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah". Well you stupid fucks check this out, do it

> and give it away for no return. The audience are speaking and they say "We

> don't want your mass produced discs any longer, it's a

> dying format". Give something of yourself away instead of crying about how

> you can't afford to make things when you already earn more than i do

> anyway. The fact your sales are falling is delightful for me to see. I

hope

> they all continue to fall and you all get fucked over. I have no love for

> YOU.

>

> This year has been one long goodbye and the thanks for me to YOU is in

what

> i have given away all year. Being able to make music over such a long

> period of time has been one big unexpected accident i guess, an accident

> which was funded by YOU people buying the audio. Not funded by a bigger

> label waving a wad of cash in the hope i would take their major label cock

> up my arse, or some kind of sugar daddy, rich relation or someone else

> pulling strings for me. It's been kept going by a desire to do what i can

> to try and change a few things and offer up audio i have liked over the

> years and i guess some people liked it. The fact that i wound almost every

> other label and most artists up who came close to V/Vm is a bonus and was

> done in a desire to actually make them think about what they were doing to

> YOU which ultimately they didn't. Lazy labels and artists and lazy labels

> and artists you are now sadly left with because of the lazy and fucked up

> people who fund them by buying their shit with no idea that they are

> all laughing at YOU in the process. All of this done for that one golden

> sale. To these people sales = profit = a nice night with some cocaine and

> then a tiny bit of each sale invested back into more shit and safe audio

> put out to con YOU even more into feeding them more drugs and so the

> hamster ball keeps on rolling. Welcome to the real music business.

>

> It's all a big game out there and the only way to play is to play to win.

I

> played to win and i won because i have no regrets, no major debt and a

> whole host of shit behind me which can only be a positive thing in this

day

> and age where people generally "talk the talk but seldom walk the walk".

> 365 was a solo project, one man, one goal, like old Freddie Murphy(sic)

> used to sing - ONE VISION.

>

> So here it almost is V/Vm 365, in CD terms (because people still love the

> physical format) if you were to burn it end to end it would fill over 42

> discs so far (i am told) and that is at 74 minutes a disc. To put that

into

> context that is longer time wise than the highly praised for its volume

> MERZBOX (as most of those discs were just over 30 minutes in length).

> Playing V/Vm 365 from start to finish would take you around two days to

> hear everything. V/Vm 365 has all been recorded and constructed in one

> calender year by one person. Importantly it was given away for free, not

> pressed up and sold for 150 pounds (including a limited edition V/Vm potty

> and nappies and special V/Vm arse wiped toilet paper from when i had the

> shits*** which incidentally to this day have never cleared all year

because

> i couldn't rest up at anypoint during this project - ignoring doctors

> advice to take it easier and continuing the push ***oh yeah the push***

> right till the bitter end). So that's at least 400+ tracks made this year

> when i had the neverending shits. A remarkable achievment - audio on the

> run(s). Remember everybody, everything for free which is unprecidented in

> the history of music because like the old saying goes there is never a

free

> lunch. Usually there is a catch but this time there is no catch.

>

> Not only that it's all creative commons so you can do what you want with

> creatively with it as long as you don't release it which i can't actually

> stop anyone doing so who gives a fuck about that either. Do what you want,

> i don't care. It's all yours to do what you want with, burn it, deface it,

> delete it, ignore it- i just don't care. All five hundred plus tracks.

> GRATIS and OVER.

>

> The next time you read about that musician who has been really busy

> recording their 10 track album and it took a lot out of them, point them

at

> this. Ask them if they can do it ? It's not for everyone. If you try to do

> this yourself you will face challenges for instance,  like when you are

> sick and you have to go through the sickness to make more and upload more

> and that in turn makes you even sicker 00--. Not only that the only way to

> do this is to be NON-FUNDED, that's right, no arts grant or financial help

> because only cunts apply for funding for recorded audio projects. Sorry if

> you applied for funding for your recordings and that offends you but

that's

> how i feel about it. Do it and pay for it yourself and it means so much

> more than being given it on a plate and going through the motions.  Also

> you should be the one who uploads the audio, half of the work is right

> there in the upload and that is what makes it nonstop. Create - Upload -

> Distribute with no cash, no real encouragement and hardly any press

> coverage (Bizarrely even from Creative Commons themselves who were made

> aware of this project and chose to ignore it never mentioning it once and

> yet christopher willits puts one of his tracks online to remix and it's

> promoted everywhere by these sad fuckers. Complain to them now on my

behalf

> and ask them why a guy gives one track away to remix is on there homepage

> and i do over 500 and they can't even type my name anywhere or shed any

> light on this project?). It's sad that even those i support like creative

> commons give me nothing back in return. But hey that's how it is. Some

> people can shit in a cup and it's big news others can shit all year in

cups

> and only the cup manufacturer is happy. Contact them from here

> http://creativecommons.org/ and ask them why ? Mia Garlick was the one who

> mailed me back when i told them what i was doing last year so be sure to

> drop her a line mia at creativecommons.org as i'm sure she will love to hear

> from those of you who followed what i did this year.

>

> It's also essential (to be true to this project and it's style should you

> choose to emulate this undertaking because that is all you can do now) to

> fuck some part of your body up at a show where you dress up as Elton John.

> I dislocated my knee which had me creating in immense pain for around 6

> weeks. All of this adds to the challenge you will face should you do it

> going through the pain barrier to record even more when you can't even

move

> your knee.

>

> But here is the kick everyone, no established musician will do a release

> like this ever because they all want the cash for every rotten note they

> record. Every fucking single one of them believes what they do deserves

> untold riches so they will never do a gesture such as this for you. If

they

> try they will also give up after a couple of months because they don't

> receive the same ego stroke (and paycheck) that they get from their safe

> little ten track compact disc which sounds awfully like their last one

they

> did and gets basically the same review in the press as the one before

> (titles changed, track titles changed - a cut and paste job). >From the

> lowest on the chain musicians charging you for cdr's through to Sir Elton

> John none of them will give you jack shit audio for free because they want

> your money at all times, we make it - YOU PAY FOR IT.

> God bless P2P is what i say.

>

> To wrap up around here i guess it's like all the fucked up, frustrated and

> bitter press people said over the years, all i did was hack up shit and

> even half of the musicians out there who constantly ignored V/Vm (though

> you copied what V/Vm did watered it down and made more cash than i did

> through V/Vm) ,, well you all like to believe this myth you generated and

> spread about it being a one trick pony//-  There are people who won't

admit

> there was more than just hacks, but all of you all chose not to see it

> which is a big, big, big shame,, but c'est la vie and it's all water under

> the bridge now. I only hold a few grudges and these are with valid reasons

> and in time i will be reminding myself of these so please be aware there

is

> always a threat there for you as i am one to remember and sort a grudge.

Oh

> and hey and remember all of these years i have had no cash. As soon as i

> work and get paid i will have disposable income so please don't sit so

easy

> out there and think it's over because the fun will start

> against each and everyone of you then, i promise, that will be the payback

> right there.

>

> To all of you who made it this far and followed what has happened over the

> years i hope you enjoyed some of the 365 audio, it's a real mixed bag of

> output to sit through but some of the best i have done which is actually a

> good thing and shows i cared about what i actually did with this project

> rather than going through the motions when due to bad health and also

those

> low mood days it would have been easier to do nothing. Every other label

> and artist out there who pack it in and run to the hills go out with a

> whimper, well this has been a near on 600 track whimper and the most

> productive ever year for me so it's nice to buck that trend. There is no

> fucking sob story around here.

>

> To all of you out there if we don't speak again or our paths fail to cross

> after this mail then please remember what that great well educated eastend

> philosphy graduate, deep thinker, poet, barman and loverat Nick "Wicksy"

> Berry once said  to Sharon Watts back in the day when things seemed more

> real and anything seemed possible because these words my friends will

bring

> you comfort on the darkest of days and nights...

>

> "Every loser wins, once the dream begins,

> In time we'll see, fate holds the key,

> And every loser knows, the light eternal shows,

> Will shine on you, and all those who knew,

> We nearly made it."

>

> http://brainwashed.com/vvm/micro/vvmt365/months/12/13.htm (to download)

>

> This version was one i made for you all to sing or hum along to and i hope

> you accept it as one ending of many as there will be more to follow as the

> month pans out to its final conclusion.

>

> The lyrics are here >>

> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricsb/berryn.html

>

> It's all over around here real soon and all that's left are the memories.

In

> just over two weeks i can have a rest and raise a glass by myself on the

> 31st and you know that is a deserved glass for once because each year we

> all look back on what we did through the year and hopefully we all did

> something and changed a little and i hope you did that this year. It's a

> time for reflection and to look at ourselves before the 1st offers us

> chance for movement and change we all need to keep fresh.

>

> Those who helped on the voyage over the years know the score which is how

it

> should be and each of you are in my thoughts right now as are those who

are

> no longer with me but were there on seminal parts of the journey. Those

who

> let me down will be totally ignored shortly.

>

> Tomorrow the party starts and it doesn't stop till January the 1st.//

>

> Keep watching that particular region of sky ---- look out for some leon

and

> hits one day because they will be there// maybe even sooner than you

think.

> keep the dream alive.

>

> ROCK ON TOMMY

>

> <OUT for now

>

> ------------------------------------------------------

> Follow me through, into the sun,

> And we can smile at everyone

> You gotta join in with me, then we are free

> It isn't hard to do

>

> I said life is a song, so just sing along

> And then we know we can't go wrong

> Just you and me, come on and see

> Together we'll be o.k.

>

>

> www.brainwashed.com/vvm

>

>

>

> --

> I wrote this on my Amiga One runing OS4, now with screen dragging

> http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/

>

>

>

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