[kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Fri Jan 12 16:08:58 EST 2007


No matey, this is far from dead - this is going to run & run!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Leigh Newton
Sent: 12 January 2007 06:07
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"


We just covered this! The Carpenters were amazing. So were ABBA. What's
with all this musical elitism of late? I can't think of anything lamer. "You
like THAT band? What's WRONG with you!!!" Oh please, no more. You're THIS
close to hurting my feelings.




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From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:22:44 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"


Do you think I went too far with The Carpenters?
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[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 11 January 2007 20:14
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"




And why should that be? Worried about people judging you because you
happen to own -- let alone like -- an album or two by Sting or Supertramp or
something?


Look, EVERYone -- even the hippest of uber-hepcats -- owns a guilty
pleasure or two. Let's all stop being such ridiculous elitists, for cryin'
out loud.


LET THE SKELETONS OUT OF THOSE CLOSETS!!


Alex in NYC




On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:


When have I said I only listen to one type of music? I choose to keep
my tastes in non Killing Joke related music to myself.


On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


Quite sure, thanks. As someone else said -- I believe it was
Javier -- what a boring life you must lead if you only listen to one type of
music.




Alex in NYC




On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:


Paul Simon, Queen........... Are you sure you like Killing Joke?


On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:


Back in the days of vinyl, I used to organize by genre or by
what I'd perceive as a quasi-genre ("flavor of the month brit hype bands"
ala Jesus & Mary Chain, the Primitives, the Sugarcubes, etc.) This just got
too unwieldy after a while, and upon the advent of discs, I just went with
alphabetizing, which makes loads more sense (although it means certain
artists sit incongruously next to each other on the shelves..... Paul Simon
sits next to Siouxsie.... the Plasmatics sit next to Robert Plant....Pussy
Galore sit next to Queen, etc.)


Alex in NYC








On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:


Dimitri wrote:


Or not!, and maybe you can do it the way you feel to. I just
can't mix some soft/electronic stuff i have with metal... you know what i
mean?. It's just my way to look for records easier. It's more practical to
me.
After all, labels and genres exist weather you like it or not.
You can use them or not.

But you want me to believe that you never, ever use labels...
yeah, right! I'm not a label/genre defender, but they are not useless.
That's my only point.

And so, after your complaint with that store, under what label
are KJ now? or they are re-organize all the store and now they went all
alphabetical?? So maybe you now can find Killing Joke "easier": it's just
next to Kenny G, Khawaja Zia ud din, King Pinz, Kid Rock, Krystal Blue and
Kajagoogoo?? HA! Now i call that easy!!!

Javier
MxCty









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Subject : Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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From : "Dimitri Bukharin" < krasnidenamit at googlemail.com>

To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
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You could allways put your collection in alphabetical order
then it's dead

easy to find everything!

A HMV store near me put the Joke in their "rawk" section so
I sent a letter

of complaint and their back with all the regular shit now.





On 1/11/07, Javier Garcia wrote:

>

> Second that man, on the other hand labels are necessary to
find a record

> on a shop, to organize your CD's (maybe you make your own
labeling), to look

> for new music in sites like "epitonic"... it's a practical
thing; i don't

> know, imho there are many useful things about labels.
Still, i understand

> when the members of a band don't want to be classified by
themselves, they

> don't want musical limits.

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> You're damn right! but he would have looked hot, don't you
think Pete?!?!

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> Javier

> MexCity

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> *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> *Date : *Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000

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> *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin"

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> *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> Lemmy said in an interview once that Motorhead were a punk
band and you

> just

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> labled Killing Joke as one too so your as guilty of
pigeonholing bands as

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> anyone!

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> On 1/10/07, Peter Moltesen wrote:

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> > why has everything got to be classified ????

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> > I really don't understand that - I was listening to the
first KJ album

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> > today and I can hear all kinds of

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> > influences, from punk to funk to krautrock. Theres all
sorts of things

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> > going on in there. Maybe that's why

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> >

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> > KJ stood out so much from the other bands that were
around then - I mean

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> > back in 1979/80 how many

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> > other punk bands would have admitted being influenced by
Chic / disco

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> > Stop pidgeonholing everything. Its BORING

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> > PS - Lemmy never wore spandex - does that mean he's not
'rawk' ???

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> > *On Behalf Of *Dimitri Bukharin

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> > *Sent:* 10 January 2007 15:41

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> > *Subject:* [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> > I listened to the first 5 studio albums today and could
not find any

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> > "Rawk" in any of them. Am I missing something while
listening to these

> fine

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> > works? I dont remember Jaz in spandex or Geordie with a
V-neck guitar

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> > although I remember Big Paul having a somewhat large
drum kit. What

> "rawk"

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> > bands from the 80's shared the Joke's sound? It seems to
me fans who

> come to

>

> > the Joke from a "rawk" background hear something I
don't. I once knew an

> ELO

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> > fan who belived they inspired house music! He was a
wrong and so are

> many of

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