[kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Thu Jan 11 19:28:56 EST 2007


Electro's 5 & 9 are classics!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 11 January 2007 23:30
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"


Some of those early streetsound albums are class!!



>From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>

>Reply-To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk,"A list about all things Killing Joke

>(the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>band!)'"<gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:23:07 -0000

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>Yes, I have a load of old Streetsounds Electro albums that I still love,

>but

>it's 4kin dated now &

>others think it's a bit sh!t compared to now - I find this is simply

>because

>it's a bit old now & things

>have moved on dramatically, including the sounds that technology is capable

>of. Still, Liam whatsit

>from the Prodigy still loves his electro & he samples it to 4k. 80's House

>tends to sound quite cold

>& stark nowadays, though that's not a bad thing for me. I don't lke these

>things 'cos they're cool,

>'cos I don't think they are in any way cool !!!

>

>Taken your blinkers off yet Dimitri? You underestimate us...

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> Sent: 11 January 2007 20:34

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> I'll shout WHEN I THINK SHOUTING IS APPLICABLE.

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> To some, "old hip hop" is just as lamentable -- if not more so -- than

>Sting and Supetramp.

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> For what it's worth, I don't own any Sting albums -- that was just an

>example. I do own everything by the Police though.

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> Alex in NYC

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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:

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> No Sting or Supertramp I'm afraid! I only bought two albums last year,

>Killing Joke And Transmission. I don't claim to be cool, to old for that

>shit but I don't own any records that I'm not proud to have bought.

> When I'm not listening to the Joke I'm more an electro house and old

>hip-hop fan though my old punk records get a play now and again. Oh and NO

>NEED TO SHOUT!

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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> And why should that be? Worried about people judging you because you

>happen to own -- let alone like -- an album or two by Sting or Supertramp

>or

>something?

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> Look, EVERYone -- even the hippest of uber-hepcats -- owns a guilty

>pleasure or two. Let's all stop being such ridiculous elitists, for cryin'

>out loud.

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> LET THE SKELETONS OUT OF THOSE CLOSETS!!

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> Alex in NYC

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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:

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> When have I said I only listen to one type of music? I choose to

>keep my tastes in non Killing Joke related music to myself.

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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:

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> Quite sure, thanks. As someone else said -- I believe it was

>Javier -- what a boring life you must lead if you only listen to one type

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> Alex in NYC

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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:

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> Paul Simon, Queen........... Are you sure you like Killing

>Joke?

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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:

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> Back in the days of vinyl, I used to organize by genre or by

>what I'd perceive as a quasi-genre ("flavor of the month brit hype bands"

>ala Jesus & Mary Chain, the Primitives, the Sugarcubes, etc.) This just got

>too unwieldy after a while, and upon the advent of discs, I just went with

>alphabetizing, which makes loads more sense (although it means certain

>artists sit incongruously next to each other on the shelves..... Paul Simon

>sits next to Siouxsie.... the Plasmatics sit next to Robert Plant....Pussy

>Galore sit next to Queen, etc.)

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> Alex in NYC

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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

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> Dimitri wrote:

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> Or not!, and maybe you can do it the way you feel to. I

>just

>can't mix some soft/electronic stuff i have with metal... you know what i

>mean?. It's just my way to look for records easier. It's more practical to

>me.

> After all, labels and genres exist weather you like it or

>not. You can use them or not.

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> But you want me to believe that you never, ever use

>labels... yeah, right! I'm not a label/genre defender, but they are not

>useless. That's my only point.

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> And so, after your complaint with that store, under what

>label are KJ now? or they are re-organize all the store and now they went

>all alphabetical?? So maybe you now can find Killing Joke "easier": it's

>just next to Kenny G, Khawaja Zia ud din, King Pinz, Kid Rock, Krystal Blue

>and Kajagoogoo?? HA! Now i call that easy!!!

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> Javier

> MxCty

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> Subject : Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> Date : Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:02:48 +0000

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> From : "Dimitri Bukharin" <

>krasnidenamit at googlemail.com>

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> To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> You could allways put your collection in alphabetical

>order then it's dead

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> easy to find everything!

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> A HMV store near me put the Joke in their "rawk" section

>so I sent a letter

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> of complaint and their back with all the regular shit

>now.

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> On 1/11/07, Javier Garcia wrote:

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> > Second that man, on the other hand labels are

>necessary

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> > on a shop, to organize your CD's (maybe you make your

>own labeling), to look

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> > for new music in sites like "epitonic"... it's a

>practical thing; i don't

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> > know, imho there are many useful things about labels.

>Still, i understand

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> > when the members of a band don't want to be classified

>by themselves, they

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> > You're damn right! but he would have looked hot, don't

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> > *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> > *Date : *Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000

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> > *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin"

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> > *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>band!)" <

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> > Lemmy said in an interview once that Motorhead were a

>punk band and you

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> > labled Killing Joke as one too so your as guilty of

>pigeonholing bands as

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> > On 1/10/07, Peter Moltesen wrote:

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> > > I really don't understand that  I was listening to

>the first KJ album

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> > > influences, from punk to funk to krautrock. Theres

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> > > KJ stood out so much from the other bands that were

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> > > PS - Lemmy never wore spandex  does that mean he's

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> > > *On Behalf Of *Dimitri Bukharin

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> > > *Sent:* 10 January 2007 15:41

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> > > I listened to the first 5 studio albums today and

>could not find any

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> > > "Rawk" in any of them. Am I missing something while

>listening to these

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> > > works? I dont remember Jaz in spandex or Geordie

>with

>a V-neck guitar

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> > > although I remember Big Paul having a somewhat large

>drum kit. What

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> > > bands from the 80's shared the Joke's sound? It

>seems

>to me fans who

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> > > the Joke from a "rawk" background hear something I

>don't. I once knew an

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> > > fan who belived they inspired house music! He was a

>wrong and so are

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