[kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

[Alexander Smith]

Not to harp on the hair again, but Dave Grohl may have had a lot of  
it, but let's remember that the guy cut his teeth in D.C. hardcore  
(not least in a latter-day incarnation of Scream) and is a consummate  
music-head (who -- as we all know -- has big love for the `Joke).

Dave Grohl is easily the least lamentable thing about Nirvana.

Alex in NYC


On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:54 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:


>

> "Barfly grunge" was a description I read of Nirvana's music once.

>

> And, yes, it did seem to be more like metal. Not to obsess about  

> hair once again, but also when I first saw the band -- long hair,  

> Kurt's goatee or soul patch or whatever he had -- Grohl's long hair  

> in a pony tail -- and they were playing more like mid tempo metal  

> riffs -- I just couldn't understand at all why the label "punk" got  

> attached to them so fervidly. I know Kurt Cobain liked to name-drop  

> bands like the Wipers and other old 80s punk bands every time he  

> could get -- maybe that's why? Or maybe because 97% of music  

> writers are idiots? I personally hated bands like Belly, The Spin  

> Doctors, Candlebox, Screaming Trees, Crash Test Dummies, Stone  

> Temple Pilots, and Jesus Jones, bands that seemed to congregate  

> amass in that era like flies around shit.

>

> A few years ago something called "New Rock" was supposedly the new  

> punk/grunge/thing. What was New Rock? Rolling Stone said it was The  

> White Stripes, The Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, and Jet.

>

> And a year or two before that, it was Detroit-style girl rock &  

> roll: The Donnas (who were good early on), Sahara Hotnights, The  

> Eyeliners -- that was "the new thing." And this was a few years  

> before (1999-2000), but -- who can forget Kittie? Ugh.

>

> I think music writers are probably continually obsessed with trying  

> to convince folks there's a groundbreaking NEW THING HAPPENING  

> RIGHT NOW to sell their magazines/articles, to promote themselves,  

> and the like, whether it's true or not.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

>

> GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>>

>> I'm struggling to find ANY influence of the Buzzcocks on Nirvana-- 

>> the latter sound like 70s or 80s commercial metal to me, and  

>> Soundgarden sounds like AWFUL 70s/80s hard rock/metal. At least  

>> the Killers have a sort of new-wavey, 80s sound. In a million  

>> years I can not see anything likeable about Soundgarbage, but then  

>> again I also hate Led Zepelin, Punk Floyd, and Aerosmith.

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