[kj] FW: Re: 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA
melinda grant
hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 27 15:53:28 EST 2007
hay greggy ;-)
i was only joking with you...........
glad to hear you had a good time with k.j ;-)
yes sounds like your radio mate had a great all nighter there with the
joke,talking about the end of world ect--weve all done that by now
;-D))))))))))))))) well most i guess,and some more than
once/twice/three/four ect times ;-)!!!!!
melinda ps i really hope the joke do gig in u.s.a.---im ASSUMING YOUR FROM
STATES ;-)??!!
well if your not,alex n.y.c and others are,so that ps. last part of post can
be for them.....
>From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Re: 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:15:16 -0500
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>Actually, I meant to say i saw the Dead Kennedys in a (I think high school)
>gym --or maybe it was U. of Houston...I got my first (and only) punk
>bruises stage diving at that show...I did see KJ, but in a rather small
>disco that also doubled as a punk/new wave club. I remember about 50 or
>fewer being in the audience, but was blow away by the Joke, especially
>Jaz's pantomine routine...I also knew a radio guy who said he stayed up all
>nigh w/Jaz and co. talking about the end of the world, etc...
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>From: "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: [kj] FW: Re: 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:48:52 +0000
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> >>From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> >>To: gathering at misera.net
> >>Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA
> >>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:06:38 -0500
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> >>greg observed with shock exspression.........
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> >>"When I lived in Houston (81), I went to a punk record store where
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> >>a guy (singer?) from Really Red worked. Oh yeah, and I saw (in a
> >>gym!) Killing Joke!"
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> >
> > that wasnt jaz working of his future speare tire there was it
> >gregg? ;-D))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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> >sorry greg,could not resist, ;-D)))))))
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> >melinda
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> >>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA
> >>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:24:43 -0600
> >>
> >Greg,
> >> >
> >> >I believe you. And since I burnt -- uh, I mean BOUGHT -- a copy
> >>of
> >> >_American Hardcore_, I'll have to go back and watch it with the
> >> >commentary ON. But I have to stick by the Misfits being an
> >>essential
> >> >part of the American hardcore movement this movie delves into.
> >> >
> >> >So, if the documentary makers if they can give air time to folks
> >>like
> >> >Nig Heist (!) and Flipper -- who, okay, I guess
> >>were hardcore, sure --
> >> >and interview folks like the dudes in Superjoint Ritual as well
> >>as Flea
> >> >(who they intro as a member of Red Hot Chili Peppers and Fear,
> >>the
> >> >latter of which is true but how is he there more for movie star
> >>power or
> >>
> >what), they'd in the best of allw orlds be able to devote time
> >>the
> >> >Misfits. I mean--
> >> >
> >> >These are just the smallest smattering of shows between 1980 and
> >>1983:
> >> >
> >> > -- Misfits w/ Poison Idea & 7 Seconds & Septic Death (!):
> >> >http://www.punkbands.com/lyrics/images/flyers/misfits.gif
> >> >
> >> >-- Misfits w/ Negative Approach and The Meatmen:
> >> >http://www.nestorindetroit.com/Flyers-brian/misfits-freezer.jpg
> >> >
> >> >--Misfits w/ FU's and Boston's DYS:
> >> >http://www.onethirtyeight.com/images/flyers/fccc_crimsonghost.jpg
> >> >
> >> >--Misfits w/
> >>Necros:
> >> >http://www.stardoom.com/punk_flyers/see_artwork/misfits_pushead.gif
> >>
> >
> >> >And there's a pic in Bannd in DC, the book, of The Misfits
> >>letting DC hc
> >> >band Govt Issue use their equipment.
> >> >
> >> >Etc. The 'Fits had their own DIY "fiend club," which was either a
> >>PO Box
> >> >or Glenn Anzalone aka Glenn Danzig's mom's house's address in
> >>Lodi, NJ.
> >> >They started their own label, Plan 9 Records, also in the DIY
> >>spirit.
> >> >(Actually, Glenn did that and still uses it.) They used Minor
> >>Threat's
> >> >Lyle Preslar briefly as a guitarist near the end when they were
> >> >transitioning into Samhain, used Black Fag drummer Robo and even
> >>Rollins
> >> >as a guest vocalist on their _Evilive_LP; did covers of Black
> >>Flag's
> >> >"Rise Above" live --
>& the impact they had on bands w/ their
> >>imagery,
> >> >artwork, stage presence, etc., is
> >>hard to over-estimate. I'm just saying
> >> >no really comprehensive American HC documentary can ignore all
> >>that. But
> >> >again it's not like _American Hardcore_ sucked -- I was really
> >>stoked
> >> >and grateful they got in some footage of Houston's
> >>almost-forgotten, yet
> >> >very excellent, old hardcore band Really Red, too. Those guys
> >>were
> >> >great. And the attention paid to Bad Brains and MDC was very
> >>cool.
> >> >
> >> >We could nitpick the thing all day. Government Issue were also
> >>absent
> >> >from the documentary, along with GG Allin. My main point was just
> >>that
> >> >The Misfits and
>DKs seemed like a towering absence, regardless of
> >>the
> >> >reasoning behind it, sound or unsound. And I'll be getting to
> >>that
> >> >commentary on the movie soon, per your recommendation! :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-Oliver
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >GREG SLAWSON wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Check out the commentary--better than the deleted scenes. I
> >>like the
> >> > > more melodic hardcore (although I've never heard much Misfits
> >>nor knew
> >> > > anyone really into them)--the movie seemed to focus mostly on
> >>the
> >> > > really independent, underground bands (except for BB and BF),
> >> > > including many that I never thought worth playing (at
>home or
> >>on my
> >> > > radio show), such as Necros, DRI, Die Kreutzen, etc. I've
> >>always had
> >> > > the belief that there was a lot of bad hardcore out
> >>there--esp. bands
> >> > > that just wanted to play fast and didn't write songs. I wish
> >>all
> >> > > hardcore songs were as good as: Pay to Cum, Police Story, In A
> >>Free
> >> > > Land (Husker Du single), Which Way to Go (Big Boys),
> >>etc...Another
> >> > > overlooked band: THE DESCENDENTS!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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