[kj] FW: Re: 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

[melinda grant]

>From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:06:38 -0500

>

>greg observed with shock exspression.........

>

>"When I lived in Houston (81), I went to a punk record store where a guy 

>(singer?) from Really Red worked. Oh yeah, and I saw (in a gym!) Killing 

>Joke!"



  that wasnt jaz working of his future speare tire there was it gregg? 
;-D))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


sorry greg,could not resist, ;-D)))))))

melinda

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>From:  "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject:  Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

>Date:  Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:24:43 -0600

> >Greg,

> >

> >I believe you. And since I burnt -- uh, I mean BOUGHT -- a copy of

> >_American Hardcore_, I'll have to go back and watch it with the

> >commentary ON. But I have to stick by the Misfits being an essential

> >part of the American hardcore movement this movie delves into.

> >

> >So, if the documentary makers if they can give air time to folks like

> >Nig Heist (!) and Flipper -- who, okay, I guess

>were hardcore, sure --

> >and interview folks like the dudes in Superjoint Ritual as well as Flea

> >(who they intro as a member of Red Hot Chili Peppers and Fear, the

> >latter of which is true but how is he there more for movie star power or

> >what), they'd in the best of allw orlds be able to devote time the

> >Misfits. I mean--

> >

> >These are just the smallest smattering of shows between 1980 and 1983:

> >

> >  -- Misfits w/ Poison Idea & 7 Seconds & Septic Death (!):

> >http://www.punkbands.com/lyrics/images/flyers/misfits.gif

> >

> >-- Misfits w/ Negative Approach and The Meatmen:

> >http://www.nestorindetroit.com/Flyers-brian/misfits-freezer.jpg

> >

> >--Misfits w/ FU's and Boston's DYS:

> >http://www.onethirtyeight.com/images/flyers/fccc_crimsonghost.jpg

> >

> >--Misfits w/

>Necros:

> >http://www.stardoom.com/punk_flyers/see_artwork/misfits_pushead.gif

> >

> >And there's a pic in Bannd in DC, the book, of The Misfits letting DC hc

> >band Govt Issue use their equipment.

> >

> >Etc. The 'Fits had their own DIY "fiend club," which was either a PO Box

> >or Glenn Anzalone aka Glenn Danzig's mom's house's address in Lodi, NJ.

> >They started their own label, Plan 9 Records, also in the DIY spirit.

> >(Actually, Glenn did that and still uses it.) They used Minor Threat's

> >Lyle Preslar briefly as a guitarist near the end when they were

> >transitioning into Samhain, used Black Fag drummer Robo and even Rollins

> >as a guest vocalist on their _Evilive_LP; did covers of Black Flag's

> >"Rise Above" live  -- & the impact they had on bands w/ their imagery,

> >artwork, stage presence, etc., is

>hard to over-estimate. I'm just saying

> >no really comprehensive American HC documentary can ignore all that. But

> >again it's not like _American Hardcore_ sucked -- I was really stoked

> >and grateful they got in some footage of Houston's almost-forgotten, yet

> >very excellent, old hardcore band Really Red, too. Those guys were

> >great. And the attention paid to Bad Brains and MDC was very cool.

> >

> >We could nitpick the thing all day. Government Issue were also absent

> >from the documentary, along with GG Allin. My main point was just that

> >The Misfits and DKs seemed like a towering absence, regardless of the

> >reasoning behind it, sound or unsound. And I'll be getting to that

> >commentary on the movie soon, per your recommendation! :)

> >

> >

> >-Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> >

> >

> > > Check out the commentary--better than the deleted scenes. I like the

> > > more melodic hardcore (although I've never heard much Misfits nor knew

> > > anyone really into them)--the movie seemed to focus mostly on the

> > > really independent, underground bands (except for BB and BF),

> > > including many that I never thought worth playing (at home or on my

> > > radio show), such as Necros, DRI, Die Kreutzen, etc. I've always had

> > > the belief that there was a lot of bad hardcore out there--esp. bands

> > > that just wanted to play fast and didn't write songs. I wish all

> > > hardcore songs were as good as: Pay to Cum, Police Story, In A Free

> > > Land (Husker Du single), Which Way to Go (Big Boys), etc...Another

> > > overlooked band: THE DESCENDENTS!

> >

> >

> >

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