[kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

[Alex Smith]

The arrival of the Bad Brains in NYC certainly changed everything. I don't think they became a "NYHC" band so much as they ignited the NYC scene (I doubt the bands that follwed them would've sounded like they did if not for the Bad Brains). They again, they also inspired Token Entry to go "funky," which was a Grand Canyon-sized misstep.

And if I had to pick, I'd pick the ROIR cassette over I AGAINST I, but you honestly can't go wrong with the Bad Brains (well, yes you can -- avoid the Maverick album, GOD OF LOVE at all costs).

No one's claimed that any of the albums cited in the subject line to be "hardcore." The discussion just drifted.

Shouldn't you be quibbling about the clothes and hairstyles these bands were sporting about now, Oliver?

Alex in NYC





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>From: "B." <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Sent: Feb 23, 2007 10:43 AM

>To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

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>Although I hate to LABEL them strictly hardcore by

>'85, Bad Brains had become a NYHC band (but always DC

>in spirit?) and _I Against I_ + _Soulcraft_ LPs are

>also solid releases, also with the metallic crossover

>edge of the period. A lot of folks think "I Against I"

>is their best LP! (Not me, but I like it.) The

>Ramones' "I'm Not Jesus" (_Halfway to Sanity_) from

>'87 or so is about as hc a song as was made in the

>80s.

>

>The subject line of this post contains two albums that

>I choose not to label hardcore.

>

>-Oliver

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>--- Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

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>> 

>> A year later saw amazing albums from the NYC

>> hardcore bands like Murphy's Law, Agnostic Front and

>> the Cro-Mags

>> 

>> 

>> Ah, misty water colored memories of youth.

>> 

>> Alex in NYC

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