[kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

[Christof hamille]

this is a huge arguement that has been talked about endlessly.

The industry is fighting against as it has with everything else (home taping 
, etc.).

Who is getting screwed on this deal?

The consumer

And maybe MAYBE the independent record store but I would argue that INDUSTRY 
driven CORPORATE franchises (ala Best Buy) are doing this a million times 
more than consumer download practices.  And this has been BLATANTLY going on 
LONG before downloading was even an issue.

I rarely download.  And if so it is usually bootlegs, out of print or so 
obscure I'll never be able to get it.

I downloaded ALL of the Killing Joke releases since 2003.  I bought all of 
the Kiling Joke releases since 2003.  This includes imports, singles, 
repressings and others.  Have done the same with other artists.  Fans are 
always going to buy the releases.  Johnny-come-latelys may not.

Hence why downloading needs to be proactive.  It is likely that more people 
are hearing more music because of downloading.

So why would the industry be scared to allow this?
Because it could be the same as radio stations that play bands.  They have 
to pay royalties to the label which thus SHOULD pay royalties to its 
artisits.  Which would mean that the industry would have to shell out more 
money.

Downloading is not stealing from artists.  I'm sorry.  There is no way that 
I will EVER believe that Killing Joke is going poor because of downloading.  
They are going poor because of band business decisions and the inability to 
stay active long enough.  If anything downloading may have helped them with 
the under promoted 2003 tour.  Metallica will never lose a cent.  Get 
someone on the same scale as Killing Joke with out such bad luck (by people 
that may have only had a passing interest).  Same story.  In fact a lot of 
smaller artists are getting with the game by either allowing downloads, or 
selling "exclusive downlaod tracks, or exclusive material all together.

Fuck the meter maids man...that's just how I feel

Chris

>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:46:01 -0600

>

>The first album by Venom had a warning sticker on it typical of vinyl

>LPs at the time: "Home taping is killing the record industry." Home

>cassette dubbing and tape trading was a huge concern.

>

>Venom's twist was to include the sticker -- "Home taping is killing the

>record industry" -- but the band added "...and so is Venom!"

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>

>Neil Perry wrote:

> > Just saw this:

> >

> > http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2007624,00.html

> >

> > 'Apple boss calls for end to music download restrictions'

> >

> > I think the depressing thing is that the 'music business' - ie the

> > established

> > major labels - was so petrified by the digital age, and is now swimming

> > against the tide in a rather pathetic way. The campaign against

> > cassettes was huge and went on all the time and as you say

> > had no effect - and that was how I and my friends got to share new

> > music (and then we would run to the record shop to buy them after

> > we'd heard a taster).

> >

>

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