[kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

Jerry Butson jerry at fleamusic.com
Wed Feb 7 06:33:24 EST 2007


I say I say I say, did you hear the one about the band who were so bent on
self-destruction that they sued anyone who had ever bought one of their
records, managed them, designed their artwork, wrote a book about them or
played with them? And stole all their money...

On 07/02/07, Jerry Butson <jerry at fleamusic.com> wrote:

>

> If KJ were lawyers they'd end up sueing themselves...how about a KJ comedy

> club?

>

>

> On 06/02/07, Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com> wrote:

> >

> > lol

> >

> > Bailiffs... or maybe lawyers

> >

> >

> > *Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk >* wrote:

> >

> > >If they're not making a living doing this after all this time, they're

> > in the

> > >wrong career.

> >

> > Killing Joke Removals . .

> >

> > Or maybe greengrocers?

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > *From:* Neil Perry [mailto: neilfperry at btinternet.com]

> > *Sent:* 06 February 2007 16:47

> > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > *Subject:* Re: [kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

> >

> > Same here, but to back up my earlier outburst,

> > I've already bought every KJ release 3, sometimes 4 times - vinyl,

> > replacement copies for fucked vinyl, CD, re-issued CD, etc - so

> > there you go, I've already paid for someone's free download several

> > times over... generally I wouldn't do it to new/upcoming bands

> > but someone as long in the tooth as KJ? No problem. If they're

> > not making a living doing this after all this time, they're in the

> > wrong career.

> > N

> >

> >

> > *"B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>* wrote:

> >

> >

> > Obviously, I love KJ, or I wouldn't be here. But I'll admit that I heard

> >

> > msny of their albums illegally and unauthorized over p2p file sharing

> > networks before I decided, "Okay, I am definitely a fan of this

> > excellent band." A band whose oeuvre I might not've heard hadn't it been

> >

> > for Soulseek. Then I decided to collect the physical merchandise.

> >

> > At that point, I did proceed to track down vinyl and CD copies of the

> > band's material, as well as other non-downloadable merch., like

> > t-shirts, stickers, et. al.

> >

> > I don't think many bands realize how much mp3 downloads really HELP

> > them. If a band is so insecure about its material that it wants folks to

> >

> > buy their LPs before listeners hear them and find out they suck -- well,

> >

> > then, posh on that band. A confident band would WANT to get the music

> > out there, bar none, to prospective listeners, and would confidently

> > assume real appreciators of the band would buy the real vinyl/CD. That's

> >

> > how many punk bands operate nowadays.

> >

> > I have a fine collection of KJ merch. I dunno how much of my purchases

> > goes into Jaz's, Geordie's, etc, pockets, but that's not my fault. I

> > download *AND* I buy. The two are not inseparable.

> >

> > See, for example, this picture of me with a really nice right-eye shiner

> >

> > (seizure disorder) in my very proudly-owned KJ "Requiem" t-shirt. My

> > girlfriend bought it for me from England for Xmas. So, no, I am not some

> >

> > slovenly bootlegger who never buys actual KJ merch. I really do love

> > Killing Joke, heart and soul. I love owning their actual, physical

> > material. But I'm also a punk at heart: Music for the masses/don't quit

> > your day job.

> >

> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/wolfbrigade/badeye2.jpg

> >

> >

> > Yours 'til the Aocalypse,

> >

> > Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Neil Perry wrote:

> > > Bah, screw Killing Joke. Download/pirate/boot as much

> > > as you like. Financial knife-edge? They'd use it to slit

> > > your throat before giving you anything for free. Only if

> > > Colesy is involved would I say don't do it.

> > >

> > > 'Servicing their fanbase'? I hope this is an example of an

> > > extremely dry sense of humour. We've all been 'serviced'

> > > by KJ at one stage or another.

> > >

> > > Take take take

> > > N

> > >

> > > *//*

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