[kj] Jamie Bulger.

[Brendan]

Hey Wady welcome back, was wondering where you'd got to, living up to your
name by wading right in I see (groan) ;)


> Just returned from our Roman honeymoon.  I'm married.  Its good.

>

> Ah, the Bulger killers.

>

> They arent the same people any more.  Over ten years of trying to change

> them/reform them/DON'T YOU REALISE WHAT THE FUCK YOU DID TO THAT CHILD?

> and finally a Judge decides they should be released.  If you wanted to

> punish the killers, they should have been executed at the time.  Plenty of

> societies did stuff like that and still do.  A dark corner, a quick move

> and out the door.  Bye bye murderers.  Simple.

>

> Instead, I think its a bit late.  If you did to them what they did to that

> toddler, you'd be doing it to completely different people now.  Thats

> whats been going on as far as I can see.  Years of intensive treatment, to

> the point that one day or night those people may have woken up to realise

> what they did, the way Jamie's Mother does every single minute of the rest

> of what she looks forward to as a life.  Jamie does not, of course.

>

> That's punishment.  Live with that.  I'm Autistic and I can feel something

> about this!  Imagine how they are?  There are worse things than just

> ending the torment, like spending the rest of your life looking over your

> shoulder?  Wondering if anyone knows what you did?

>

> Wondering and waiting.

>

> Keep Smiling...

>

>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:19:48 +0000> From: pmdavies at gmail.com> To:

>> gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] o/t Please sign the petition -

>> it's too late> > i dont have the time right now to give proper

>> consideration to your> points but taking the first few line.> > The

>> Krishnamurti quote is at least challenging. Its not to hold like a>

>> commandment, its to question.> > however, as a quick touch on the

>> subject, what exists externally is a> reflectiion of the internal. If

>> your life is full of violence then> that because you are in turmoil

>> inside. Only by finding peace within> yourself can peace exist around

>> you. Now violence is often> misconstrued. I can smash someone in the

>> face but still be in peace.> It was an act without duality in the

>> moment. Therefore its the emotion> that puts the value on the act.

>> Conflict is a result of fragmentation,> friction caused by you being

>> pulled in different directions. Belief is> a source of conflict as

>> belief is rigid, truth simply is, there is no> rigidity.> > an example

>> of emotion in an act can be in christmas gifts. many people> here will

>> simply give gifts because we have to. There is no emotion.> An ipod to a

>> pair of socks. The real gift is the one which you have> thought about

>> and give with love. The emotion behind the act is what> gives it value.>

>> > wanting to hurt a Bulger killer is not really about them, its really>

>> about something in conflict inside you. Until that is faced, the>

>> conflict will never go away.> > On Dec 19, 2007 10:27 AM, Brendan Quinn

>> <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> > Have you analysed that paragraph, I

>> did quickly and it seems to me to be> > logically flawed.> >> > If

>> you're free of violence in yourself...the question is...when you ask

>> such> > a question you are not living peacefully...>

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