[kj] OT: somewhat rapturous Bauhaus CD review...

Leigh Newton angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 16 17:51:33 EST 2007


80s shitpop PLEASE! God, I didn't even have to think about that for one second.

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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: somewhat rapturous Bauhaus CD review...


Okay 80s shitpop or emo, playing constantly at volume on a 12 hour bus
trip, riddled with their respective fans singing along, what's your
pick?
You're not allowed to throw yourself off the bus as it travels over a
bridge or grab the steering wheel to point ino oncoming traffic
either...

Personally I'd choose emo because I've already had years of fucking
Wake
me up before you go go and When will I be famous...the twitch comes
back
instantly...I have been lucky enough to be able to choose not to listen
to
emo nearly as much, although they do seem to be invading several
concerts
I've been to...The Cure, and well I had to go to Linkin Park in order
to
see Chris Cornell...


>

> Anyone remember Senator Flux? I didn't mind them. But, honestly,

fuck

> all that shit.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On Dec 16, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Leigh Newton wrote:

>

>> When I started becoming aware of emo as a musical genre in the late

>> 90s, it was mostly bands like Braid, The Promise Ring, Dashboard

>> Confessional, Saves the Day and whatnot that I was hearing about.

>> Mostly clean-cut, very handsome looking young men singing songs of

>> love-lost whilst jacking off in front of a full-length mirror. At

>> some point, most of these bands really came to terms with the fact

>> that there was no difference between them and the likes of Bon Jovi,

>> which explains why the eyeliner started coming into play. That

>> started the snowball-effect of emo and goth coalescing into one big

>> melting chocolate cake (or that's what most of these gaylords look

>> like to me anyways). It's definitely a weird evolution. When I was a

>> lad, there wasn't much difference between an emo-kid and an indie-

>> rock type kid as far as fashion went. Just some dude in tight,

>> thrift-store clothes, Buddy Holly glasses and a fuckin back-pack.

>> That was emo.

>>

>> And it SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED too.

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----

>> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <gathering at misera.net

>> >

>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:12:36 AM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: somewhat rapturous Bauhaus CD review...

>>

>>

>> I'll be forever amazed at how "emo," which I always understood to be

a

>> mid-80s post-punk musical movement, came to be conflated with

>> "goth." A

>>

>> few years ago on a discussion forum someone said, "Just you wait,

>> they'll come up with a way to combine emo with goth, and it'll be

>> called

>> goth-mo or some shit." Looks like that really did happen.

>>

>> This is Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat expaining, derisively, "emo," in

>> ...

>> 1986:

>>

>>

>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbdh0Qm_5A0

>>

>>

>> Now, how what he is describing would come to mean eyeliner, a black

>> 80s

>>

>> skater flop, bangs-over-one-eye hairdo, etc., is beyond me.

Basically,

>> America's cultural stewards need to be sent to the gas ovens,

because

>> whoever is in charge of steering this shit has no idea what they're

>> doing.

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>>

>>

>> LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:

>>> Nice Oilver. ;)

>>>

>>> ~LB

>>>

>>>

>>> In a message dated 12/15/2007 1:18:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

>>> bq at soundgardener.co.nz writes:

>>>

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