[kj] Killing joke and Communism

[Mister Black]

"No borders (one world, one party, one flag)" 

 I disagree with the concept of there being just the one Political Party, either Left of Right . I believe that everyone should have a right to say as they please and to have whatever Political beliefs they choose to have . If you have just one Political Party  , this means that you must outlaw any opposition groups , this will lead to mass bloodshed and this will also lead to corruption within this One ruling party . One party rule means oppressing everyone who has different ideals to you and this will ultimately lead to corruption and suppression of the people.
   I dont believe in any strong Government , Governments should nt dictate to the general population about how to live there lives, Governments should be there to collect the taxes and too collect the rubbish  . Governments are inept , they should have limited power , people should have the power to run their own lives. Localised Governments should have the power, not Governments on a National scale




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Message Received: Aug 22 2007, 04:36 AM
From: "GREG SLAWSON" 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

I respectfully disagree. Socialism (the big S one?) is what existed in the USSR and China and is hanging on in Cuba. They all maintained heirarchical leadership, wage slavery and wage differences, and economic/political classes. And in China and Russia they led to the current grotesque forms of capitalism (rampant unemployment, crime, drugs, alienation, social unrest, poverty). The other (small s?) or Euro-socialism certainly has advantages (as displayed in the new Micheal Moore film) but maintains all the bad parts of capitalism (unemployment, alienation, 
crime, economic cylcles, top-down leadership, etc). I prefer communism with a big C--summed up in a slogan I made up: 
No wages (with all goods distributed according to need, not status), 
No stages (as in stages from national liberation to socialism to communism, which has failed in countless countries), 
No borders (one world, one party, one flag), 
No orders (all decisions made collectively).
A lot of this stuff can be found at www.plp.org...


> From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:47:54 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

> 

> Socialism. With both a big and small 'S'. ;)

> 

> 

> >From: Frank Frik 

> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

> >band!)"

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

> >

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

> >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:17:11 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >folk devil, so what is better communism or fashism? Answer yes or no, 

> >because Ihate read stupid 'books'' here.

> >

> >

> 

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