[kj] Killing joke and Communism

[Brendan]

So I take it you still have three quarters of your foreskin...? No pics
necessary.

Bis Bald.



> I am Aryan, but I have 1/4 of Jews blood.

>

>    This is a top secret in my family and my mum...o dear...she has changed

> even my surname when I was born ...

>

> paul wady <paulwady at hotmail.com> wrote:

>       Do you mean that you are German Frank?

>

> Yes, lots of Autistic kids have 'normal' parents, or very high functioners

> so you wouldnt think they where.

>   (Apart from the huge scrap books of favourite Radio Aerial photo's,

> encyclopaedic knowledge of Star Trek, sensitivity of brick wall etc.)

>

>

>

>     Keep Smiling...

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>   From: Frank Frik <frankfrik at yahoo.com>

> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:07:31 -0700 (PDT)

>

>   Paul, well how just to say that...''.I like your sence of humor ''would

> be the 'repeat'..but it is.

>

>   Paul, you wrote about autistic parents. Tell me, please, the children of

> autistic parents are not autistic?

>

>   My mum is a teacher and they are separating autistic children from not

> autistic children,,,well, I will not write egzact location, but you do

> know that I am an Aryan.

>

> paul wady <paulwady at hotmail.com> wrote:

>       If you listen to Total Invasion, and the whole thrust of the KJ 2003

> album's response to 'The War', sounds like good old 'blind punk

> against the obviously bad to our sort'. ("Fuck art, lets dance",

> sort of thing.)

>

> We take the politics any way we want to express the basic messages.  The

> West are killing people for oil.  They dont have to die.  They are killing

> their own people to do it, via warfare.  Then they impose their own

> culture and agenda.  Obvious I know, but as far as Communism goes, maybe

> you could use any political system to express ones feelings (TORIES

> AGAINST THE MACHINE?)  They'd all turn their words in the direction of

> whatever people identified as 'bad', in order to get the vote.

> What was it he sang in Implant?  "SHOVE YOUR ID CARD UP YOUR ARSE..."

> Full Manifesto!

>

>

>     Keep Smiling...

>

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>   From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>

> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:20:22 +0100

>>Mate, *any* system you can think of is imperfect.

>>

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan

>>Sent: 22 August 2007 23:15

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

>>

>>

>>You need to realise that 'economic growth' of x% / year is

>>unsustainable...a percentage growth / year equation, similar to

>>compounding interest, results in exponential growth. All the economies

>>(and corporations) are constantly comparing their progress in terms of

>>profit growth, market share growth, asset growth etc, against each

>> other..

>>It's a race.

>>

>>However with finite resources, exponential growth eventually hits the

>>wall...even if you can automate everything to death so that machines are

>>perpetually exponentially more productive than humans...your natural

>>resources run out, and / or waste builds up to the point where it stymies

>>production.

>>

>>It's one of the many problems with capitalism. Having said that, I agree

>>that I'd prefer to be living in a demorcatic capitalist society than a

>>repressive regime, just pointing out that it's an imperfect system...as

>>Ade and Olly and some others have pointed out, they all are. (Robert

>> Anton

>>Wilson's core message wrapped up right there).

>>

>>Having said that, I'm still working on my Manifesto, which aims to

>> address

>>all of the above ;P

>>

>> > "(with all goods distributed according to need, not status)"

>> >

>> > Well, we all dont *need* much to survive , no one *needs* expensive

>> cars

>> > or Jewellery or large houses or anything of that nature , all we

>> "need"

>> > is food , shelter and water . You dont realise Greg that people

>> consuming

>> > things keeps others in employment . If we only consumed what we

>> needed,

>> > then that would take away many peoples employment .

>> > And who decides who needs what? That Human survival instinct makes us

>> > naturally Capitalist . In Communist Countries , there is only minimal

>> > need for consumer goods , so there is a lot of people without jobs to

>> > do, so they have 20 people "employed" to do a one man job .

>> > How about giving goods to people who contribute the most to society?

>> How

>> > about giving people who make the most contribution a piece of paper

>> > entitling them to rewards for there hard work? How about calling this

>> > piece of paper: Money? *

>> >

>> > *Is that the correct punctuation ?

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > =======================================> > Message Received: Aug 22

>> 2007, 04:36 AM

>> > From: "GREG SLAWSON"

>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> > Cc:

>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

>> >

>> > I respectfully disagree. Socialism (the big S one?) is what existed in

>> the

>> > USSR and China and is hanging on in Cuba. They all maintained

>> heirarchical

>> > leadership, wage slavery and wage differences, and economic/political

>> > classes. And in China and Russia they led to the current grotesque

>> forms

>> > of capitalism (rampant unemployment, crime, drugs, alienation, social

>> > unrest, poverty). The other (small s?) or Euro-socialism certainly has

>> > advantages (as displayed in the new Micheal Moore film) but maintains

>> all

>> > the bad parts of capitalism (unemployment, alienation,

>> > crime, economic cylcles, top-down leadership, etc). I prefer communism

>> > with a big C--summed up in a slogan I made up:

>> > No wages (with all goods distributed according to need, not status),

>> > No stages (as in stages from national liberation to socialism to

>> > communism, which has failed in countless countries),

>> > No borders (one world, one party, one flag),

>> > No orders (all decisions made collectively).

>> > A lot of this stuff can be found at www.plp.org...

>> >

>> >> From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com

>> >> To: gathering at misera.net

>> >> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:47:54 -0700

>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

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