[kj] brendan/wady

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Fri Aug 17 19:06:01 EDT 2007


You're not wrong not trusting online banking, a bill just got passed in NZ
putting almost all of the onus for your online banking security on the
user. While I agree in part, namely that you need to take adequate
precautions, banks need to take their share of the burden too.

The Internet is such a great resource, it's one of the few things I can
say I enjoy or inspires me about working in IT (the others being porn and
games ;p), it's just a shame that fucktards have to spoil things for
everyone...as per usual. Still, hopefully the Internet is doing more good
than harm overall.



> <html><div style='background-color:'><P>I deleted them from Hotmail, and

> it seems they werent sent to my E Bay account first.&nbsp; All they looked

> like were regular e mails from E Bay, in German.&nbsp; Really

> innocent.&nbsp; With a link of course.&nbsp; Reply, or click on the link,

> and somehow they hacked your account and changed the password, locking you

> out.&nbsp; <BR><BR>Now, how they got the cash off people I dont

> know.&nbsp; I dont think my Paypal account was compromised.&nbsp; I hope

> not!&nbsp; No signs yet.&nbsp; So just look out for questions about things

> you are not selling.&nbsp; </P>Sorry I could not be more helpful.&nbsp; I

> dont trust online banking and commerce, and I think my E Baying and paying

> is 'living on borrowed time' before someone robs me.&nbsp;

> <BR><BR>OOOOH!<BR>

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> Sans-serif"><STRONG>Keep Smiling...</STRONG></FONT></H6></DIV>

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> From: <I>"melinda grant"

> &lt;hollytree1961 at hotmail.com&gt;</I><BR>Reply-To: <I>"A list about all

> things Killing Joke (the band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;</I><BR>To:

> <I>gathering at misera.net</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [kj]

> brendan/wady</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:16:27

> +0100</I><BR>&gt;ha.ha.ha. thats quite funny about the

> megabites............btw <BR>&gt;there were only a couple of you tube vids

> i downed and posted!!!! <BR>&gt;not loads as you think

> ;-D))))<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;hay lets see prooof(post it to list) of the german

> invasion you said <BR>&gt;destroyed your e-bay account,so as to help out

> any others gatherers <BR>&gt;on e-bay !!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;From:

> "paul wady" &lt;paulwady at hotmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Reply-To: "A list

> about all things Killing Joke (the

> <BR>&gt;&gt;band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;To:

> gathering at misera.net<BR>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj]

> brendan/wady<BR>&gt;&gt;Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:55:51

> +0100<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Melinda, beware Ye the

> Attachment!&nbsp; For it is the Spawn of Lucifer, <BR>&gt;&gt;and usually

> what eats up the Megabytes.&nbsp; Download them all, and a

> <BR>&gt;&gt;miraculous clearing of your inbox may

> ensue.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;E Bay had to act against the German

> Invasions.&nbsp; It was proper crime <BR>&gt;&gt;baby.&nbsp; As with the

> thread on giving personal data away, it is <BR>&gt;&gt;indeed a new world

> of personal danger.Having said that, you wouldnt <BR>&gt;&gt;believe what

> I've given away online!&nbsp; I had my motives; After a <BR>&gt;&gt;life

> like mine, what I have said about me was a bit of a relief.&nbsp;

> <BR>&gt;&gt;Still stands what was said about being careful about

> disclosure <BR>&gt;&gt;though.&nbsp; I have said much, but I reckon its

> covered&nbsp;the presence of

> <BR>&gt;&gt;a great deal more about my

> life...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Keep

> Smiling...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;From: "melinda grant"

> &lt;hollytree1961 at hotmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Reply-To: "A list about all

> things Killing Joke (the

> <BR>&gt;&gt;band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;To:

> gathering at misera.net<BR>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj]

> brendan/wady<BR>&gt;&gt;Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:04:34 +0100<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;hey brendan,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;one thing for sure is

> that my-- mail box-- has not reached its<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;capacity of

> max,its at 17 percent( that includes all folders as

> <BR>&gt;&gt;wel)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;at mo,that isnt even a third full,hotmail

> are generious with <BR>&gt;&gt;space<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;these days,so the

> size limit should present no problem,i will try<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;posting a

> vid to my yahoo

> address,it may be the fault of --you<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;tube--hope it just

> applyied to the weekend,maybe server was tooo<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;bizzy?!?!

> although after i had posted a vid from you-tube--the<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;company did present the usual...vid arrived successfully..then

> <BR>&gt;&gt;you<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;close the box.<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;as

> i said,it may of arrived successfully--sometime else---but

> <BR>&gt;&gt;that<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;wasnt into my inbox at

> hotmail<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;;-))) maybe they have turned up

> in anothers in-box some how,a<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;cardinal maybe....."whats

> this,vids from you<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;tube--p.i.l/joydivision,kiling

> joke,whats all this? i posted <BR>&gt;&gt;bible<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;classes

> and got this lot back--is this a joke vicar/" cardinal<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;looking

> red face with rage-- anger!!! ;-D))))) good job there<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;was

> no porn hay...coughs...and no,have not recieved any bible

> <BR>&gt;&gt;class<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;vid ,that proberly went to hugh

> hefferner by mistake ;-D)))))))))<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;i will

> change my-- user name-- at you tube,i have changed

> <BR>&gt;&gt;password<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;few times by habbit,i do that on all

> my accounts about once every<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;month,thats strange,as the

> you tube password,has nothing to do

> <BR>&gt;&gt;with<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;k.j name association,but it

> is a combination of another password <BR>&gt;&gt;of<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;mine,just spelt backwards! its 2 others that have k.j

> connection.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;paul,your ebay hassle from a

> german sender,what a hassle that<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;sounded perhaps it was a

> mistake ;-0<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;or perhaps they were

> sick of you wining the same things they had <BR>&gt;&gt;bid<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;for but were unsuccessful in wining?1? i dont know,i am

> just<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;guessing,plus i have very little to do with e-bay

> anyhow,but as <BR>&gt;&gt;you<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;mentioned,if a person can do

> that level of damage to your<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;account,who knows how another

> can screw up anothers <BR>&gt;&gt;account!!!!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;melinda ps why do you think i never put full details

> on my <BR>&gt;&gt;profile<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;page? and i still encounter

> hassles,as so many others do on--line <BR>&gt;&gt;in<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;one

> way or another ;-/<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;From:

> "Brendan"<BR>&gt;&gt;&lt;bq at soundgardener.co.nz&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;To: "A

> list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj]

> anyone else had this???<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007

> 12:47:21 +1200 (NZST)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Your

> hotmail account seems fine, seeing as you're sending to and<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;receiving<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;from the list...I'm not familiar

> with that function in YouTube, <BR>&gt;&gt;I<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;suppose<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;it just sends the link to the video?

> If it's more data than <BR>&gt;&gt;that,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;it

> could<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;be your hotmail account has an incoming size

> limit on individual<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;emails or<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;that

> your mailbox is almost full.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;Youtube prolly has email technical support...after being bought

> <BR>&gt;&gt;out<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;for<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;two billion or whatever you'd hope they could afford

> it...<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;If you're worried about

> either account being compromised, good <BR>&gt;&gt;idea<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;change passwords on both...and don't use

> KillingJoke or anything<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;like it<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;either =)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; i went to send a

> few vids from you tube,both yesterday eve <BR>&gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;again<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; today,these i sent to my own

> hotmail address,not directly to <BR>&gt;&gt;the<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;

> list,yet,the vids are not arriving in my in--box,i am puzzled

> <BR>&gt;&gt;as<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;i have<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;

> done<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; this on other occassions befor,with no

> problem,vids always<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;arrived,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; apart from yesterday/today--i am baffled

> actually,and think <BR>&gt;&gt;that<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;maybe<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt; &gt; someone has<BR>&gt;&gt;been mucking around with my you tube

> account with<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;out my<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;

> knowledge,maybe someone on the list/or not, who has a lot of<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt; &gt; knowledge--did<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it as a joke ;-) or

> deliberatly ;-0 who knows reasons why <BR>&gt;&gt;some<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;people do<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; things ;-/ jealously,i dont

> know-i have no proof<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;unfortunatly,all i

> can<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; say is befor, you tube vids

> arrive ok.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; last place

> i posted one to was the list,last week,that

> <BR>&gt;&gt;arrived<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;ok, THE<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;

> PROBLEM U SEE STARTED AFTER THAT-- subsequent ones have not<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;arrived, who<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; says that someone may of

> got hold of my details, and altered<BR>&gt;&gt;

> &gt;&gt;something,in<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; someway so as my vids dont

> arrive!!!! i think this is<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;possible---

> there<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; may<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;be another quite innocent reason--what do you

> think????<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; about it ;-D?<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

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