[kj] OT: "Punk's Not Dead" documentary

[Brendan]

"paved paradise and put up a parking lot" is what they're gonna play on
high rotate on my level of hell.


> I went through the same thing in high school, but for me it was metal

> instead of punk.

>

> In junior high, i was one of maybe 3 or 4 people in the whole 8th grade

> who was into metal. For everyone else it was either New Kids On The Block

> or Bobby Brown or Milli Vanilli and then maybe 5 or 6 gothy girls who

> loved the Cure. People thought I was nuts and asked me on a daily basis if

> I worshipped Satan. I was never an outcast though, more just like "the

> weird guy".

>

> Then at the very end of 1991, Nirvana blew up and everything changed. I

> became assimilated into a sudden cropping-up of other "weird" guys and

> girls. But the thing is, i really LIKED when the alternative scene blew

> up. Initially, anyways. I was 15, 16 years old and I loved Soundgarden,

> Nirvana, Faith No More, Fishbone, Skinny Puppy, Jesus Lizard etc etc. For

> a while, it was really cool. I would turn on the music channel (Muchmusic

> for me cuz I'm Canadian, eh) and, instead of seeing a bunch of bullshit,

> there would be 2 hour specials on bands I really liked with live clips and

> interviews and all sorts of stuff that had eluded me up until then. Of

> course, I died a little each time some jock would enthusiastically sing

> the lyrics to Teen Spirit and get the words wrong, but it was a small

> price to pay.

>

> It wasn't until around 1994ish when I think things really started to go

> south. Bands like the Counting Crows who sounded like classic rock

> bullshit but were being touted as alternative cuz they had dreadlocks and

> shit. Things got more and more gross after that and eventually, the Spice

> Girls got huge and put an end to whole scene.

>

> The funny thing is, now as a 30-year old man, I feel like the weird guy

> all over again. When people I work with ask me what I'm listening to on my

> ipod, 9 out of 10 times i just get a blank stare in response, even from

> the 20 year olds. Especially from the 20 year olds. I was even called a

> FREAK cuz i was telling someone i went to see Slayer and Marilyn Manson

> the other night. I thought maybe I'd fallen into a wormhole back to 1990

> and looked down to check if i was wearing sweatpants and a Judge Dredd

> t-shirt.

>

> Leigh

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:54:14 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: "Punk's Not Dead" documentary

>

>

> My first three records were bought in 1978.  Kiss - Alive, Joan Jett and

> the

> Blackhearts - I Love Rock 'n' Roll and the Ramones -s/t

>

> Punk as a lifestyle, for me, didn't really come into play until I was 12

> or

> 13 (1985 - first punk show, unless you want to count Joan Jett in 1979 at

> the State Fair headlining above the Beach Boys, Negative Approach) and a

> lot

> of that had to do with skateboarding.

>

> I got the shit pummelled out of me all the time.  Not only at school but

> on

> the streets.  I would get chased out of stores.  Just for looking "weird".

> I was denied entrance into Disney World for wearing a Death Cult t-shirt.

> I

> already paid money.  I was already into the first part of the park.  I had

> to flip it inside out or leave and NOT get my money back.  This was 1988.

>

> And then in the 90's it was chic.  I wasn't being "weird" for shock value

> or

> to be ahead of the curve.  It was just a way of life that somehow made

> sense.  And still does today.  Even though I am not wearing big, heavy

> motocross boots or have red dreads or stink or whatever else I did at the

> time.  Honestly I am just to lazy today to be bothered.

>

> I guess the hippies felt the same way.  I don't know.  I'm not a hippy

>

> Chris

>

>>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: "Punk's Not Dead" documentary

>>Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:51:30 -0500

>>

>>I think you are right.

>>

>>I'm not old enough to have participated in the original '77 explosion of

>>punk, but am old to at least claimed I was into it before the punk

>> cultural

>>9/11 that was the release of Nirvana's _Neverind_, when suddenly everyone

>>had retroactively been into punk all along and loved it, really, it

>>suddenly seemed like. Radio station formats changed overnight and the

>> same

>>DJs that just weeks earlier had been spinning New Kids on the Block and

>> The

>>Escape Club were not switching to alt-rock, acting like they'd always

>> been

>>into it, hoping no one would notice.

>>

>>Now it's more punk to write books about book or make documentaries about

>> it

>>than it is to actually make punk rock music, it seems like. There are

>>shitloads of new documentaries every month. The implication in a lot of

>> it,

>>by older 30-somethings and 40 something who make it, is "Boy did you

>>youngsters really miss out! Too bad..."

>>

>>Fuck Against Me! too.

>>

>>Kicked out of school in the 80s for wearing Pushead/Misfits & Septic

>> Death

>>shirts in Tipper Gore/PMRC Amerikkka,

>>

>>-Oliver

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>culturevirus wrote:

>>>The sad truth is we've become self-congratulatory wankers just like the

>>>hippies before us. When teenage rebellion is packaged for your

>>> convenience

>>>and available at the local mall punk truly is dead. The reality is every

>>>generation thinks they invented sex and rebellion, it's only when we get

>>>older we realize we're just doing what's natural. If only we had the

>>>humility to own up to it.

>>>

>>>

>>>I am culturevirus

>>>

>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

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