[kj] RE: CULT

Daniel Corvo danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk
Tue Sep 26 10:12:02 EDT 2006


Damp fart is harsh to say the least..


>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: William Lash <wjlash at yahoo.com>
>CC: "A list about all things Killing Joke ((the 
>band!))"<gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] RE: CULT
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:42:43 -0400
>
>
>"Isn't that why we are here, why we obsess with this band?   Isn't  that 
>why there is a Gathering?  Killing Joke shouldn't be compared to  The Cult. 
>"
>
>
>Yes -- GOD FORBID any of us DARE think for ourselves or have an  opinion 
>that strays from the party line.
>
>Just because I think HOSANNAS is an *UNDERCOOKED* album (and it is)  and 
>because I like ELECTRIC by the Cult (whom the `Joke are peers of  -- like 
>it or not) does not mean my faith in the `Joke is swayed in  the slightest. 
>This does not mean, however, that every time the `Joke  release a damp 
>fart, I'm obliged to act like it smells like roses.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:15 PM, William Lash wrote:
>
>>I actually think Brighter Than is pretty good, better than  Electric, at 
>>least.  I will agree with you on OTG.  I still don't  agree with you on 
>>Hossanas.  I think that it is a strong record and  has excellent 
>>definition, structure and a very solid rhythm  section.  I have heard this 
>>before regarding  BTTS being an attempt  by the Joke to sell-out.  Again, 
>>I don't hear it and even thinkh  that the record is unique and 
>>interesting.  The only record by the  Joke I think is shite is OTG, but I 
>>do like a couple of songs,  Teuhaunaco being one.  The pre-Electric Cult 
>>is more edgy and I  think excellent, but it's no Killing Joke, not even 
>>close.  There  is a spirit and energy in Killing Jokes music that for me 
>>very few  bands have even come close to.  The Cult is not one.  Isn't that 
>>  why we are here, why we obsess with this band?   Isn't that why  there 
>>is a Gathering?  Killing Joke shouldn't be compared to The Cult.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>Fair enough, Bill -- though I think you're a bit harsh on the Cult,  
>>there. Moreover, the Cult's pre-ELECTRIC incarnations are closer to  the 
>>`Joke than you realize. Regardless, their mophing into a goofy  metal band 
>>is no more ludicrous than the `Joke's attempt to morph  into a 
>>comparatively slick singles act circa BRIGHTER THAN A  THOUSAND SUNS (to 
>>say nothing of OUTSIDE THE GATE).
>>
>>My feelings about ELECTRIC being better than HOSANNAS stem from the  fact 
>>that --regardless of style and/or subject matter and/or length  of the 
>>players' hair -- ELECTRIC is a better *sounding* record with  *fully 
>>fleshed out songs* that was recorded with some degree of  finesse with a 
>>regard to how the finished product was going to  sound. HOSANNAS, 
>>meanwhile, lacks definition, structure, cohesion  and the sound of a 
>>discernible rhythm section. Thus, ELECTRIC  remains the superior album in 
>>terms of (my) listening enjoyment.
>>
>>Alex in NYC
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: William Lash
>>Sent: Sep 25, 2006 6:16 PM
>>To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>Subject: Re: [kj] RE: CULT
>>
>>OK, I've sat back and read all about the Cult and I'll admit I  thought 
>>they were a great band, but I wouldn't even put them in the  same league 
>>as KJ.  Firstly, the Cult and KJ are completely  different styles and even 
>>genres of music.  The Cult is primarily a  good Rock N Roll band, but 
>>there music never brings out the  emotions that KJ music does.  This is 
>>especially true with  Hossanas.  Comparing Electric to Hossanas is 
>>ludicrous.  There is  no comparison.  There is nothing similar!  They are 
>>actually almost  opposites.   Electric is a boring Rock N Roll record with 
>>a couple  of catchy tunes with very sellable names like "Wild Flower" and  
>>"Lil Devil".  Hossanas goes way deeper and paints a picture of the  way 
>>the World is today like it or not.  I frankly am sick of the  catchy music 
>>that sells well.  I want hear music that moves me.   Yeah every so often 
>>it is nice to rock out and get pissed and not  think about much and the 
>>Cult, especially, Electric work perfectly.
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