[kj] Few lunatic questions

[Papa Lazarou]

The heavier sound came after the joke, quite probably inspired by the joke. Then later, they all went to bed together and cross-pollinated all over the place. But the heavier sound happened before the cross-pollinating.
  The chicken came first.

sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
      I always thought Ministry's "Burning Inside" was an amped-up near-ripoff of "Follow The Leaders". 
  So the question i have is, timelines aside (or not), did Martin Atkins cross-pollinate the sound from Ministry to KJ or from KJ to Ministry, or was that heavier late-80s sound from both bands two independent developments?
  
Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com> wrote:
  I can listen some influences, some tribal drumming, the repetetive guitar riffs (listen 'Breathe') but like Jim said before, they are not very obvious. I think the major influence can be found in the use of some effects and resources in the tracks more than in the sound itself: they mixed keyboards, samplers and distorted guitars and vocals. Ministry's sound in "The Land of…" and in "The Mind is a…" imho is more Punk/Hardcore oriented and the atmosphere may be a little bit goth/dark. That's something Killing Joke used too. 
Since "Psalm 69" Ministry turned into a Metal band, but i still like them. "The Dark side..." is lame, but since "Houses of the Molé" they returned to form (maybe more Lard than Ministry). 
I'm far to be a fan, but i love the mighty energy of their tracks. 


Javier 
mexcity 


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>Subject : RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions 
>Date : Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:03:14 -0700 (PDT) 
>From : Papa Lazarou 
>To : gathering at misera.net 
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>What about 'golden dawn' or 'you know what you are?'...definitely hear the first 2 KJ albums in those.. 
> 
>ade wrote: Aahh, maybe I'm just reading too much into it. I *am* obsessed with bands influences - probably a muso thing! 
> -----Original Message----- 
>From: Jim Harper [mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk] 
>Sent: 08 September 2006 21:57 
>To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions 
> 
> 
> I don't hear much KJ in their sound, no. Maybe a bit here and there, but not a great deal and not obvious. 
> 
> Jim. 
> 
>ade wrote: 
> Is it only me that hears KJ in their work? You don't have to ape to be 
>influenced. Can you hear the PiL influence in 'So What' ?? 
> 
>http://www.flipsidemovies.com 
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