[kj] OT: Few lunatic questions

Alex Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Thu Sep 7 11:03:53 EDT 2006


I think all our respective definitions of "industrial" are conflicting.

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob Horan <Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk>
>Sent: Sep 7, 2006 8:18 AM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
>
>The keyboards, particularly on KJ and EDVRE, provide irrefutable proof
>of 'industrial' influence, no?
>
>horbag
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
>Sent: 07 September 2006 12:39
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
>
>
>Can't say I remember that, but the Red Hot Chili Peppers banged on  
>metal during the middle-eight of "Breaking the Girl" and they're not  
>"industrial" either.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:37 AM, Blazingstar418 wrote:
>
>>  Good evening All,
>>
>>> No one bangs on metal.
>>
>>  *ahem*
>>  Except on "Change". ;)
>>
>>  A L P
>>
>> --- Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 1. I've never understood why people call Killing
>>> Joke industrial. Honestly. They play drums, guitars,
>>> bass and keyboards.
>>> Comparatively conventional instrumentation is the
>>> order of the day. They may share a bleak,
>>> apocalyptic world view with some of the "industrial"
>>> acts, but I don't see any connection beyond that.
>>>
>>> 2. KJ with a woman drummer or bass player? Sure,
>>> although I'm not sure it would necessarily fit. For
>>> better or worse, I think there's always been a
>>> prominently testosterone-centric vibe to the `Joke
>>> (who knows? Maybe that's been their undoing!) Much
>>> like, say, the early Stranglers, Killing Joke carry
>>> themselves like a gang of thugs. That's how they
>>> potray themselves and, presumably, how they live.
>>> That atmosphere of menace and the veiled threats of
>>> violence -- however ultimately childish and
>>> impractical -- seem like thoroughly male traits. I
>>> think a female in the ranks would greatly change the
>>> dynamic. I'd be curious to see/hear it, but I
>>> wouldn't hold my breath.
>>>
>>> Would you settle for Raven in a dress?
>>>
>>> Alex in NYC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Lennonka <svoje.ja at centrum.cz>
>>>> Sent: Sep 5, 2006 11:47 AM
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please try to think about it first before you
>>> reprobate me : )))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Tried someone to listen to KJ music after
>>> smoking a joint? It seemed to me more like "techno"
>>> than "rock". Is it because that they're so
>>> industrial or I smoked too much? : ))
>>>>
>>>> 2. Are they an interlink between rock music and
>>> electronical music?
>>>>
>>>> 3. How would you like if a woman was in a role of
>>> the KJ instrumentalist?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lennonka, currently in Netherlands (that is
>>> explaining all, I think : )))
>>>>
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