[kj] Jaz Straw

flight Bringer flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Oct 12 14:51:23 EDT 2006


Back to basics again!!!!!!!!

Jew is a race,
****Jews come from various different races, not one single race and so 
therefore cant be a race of people*****


not a national identity.
*******I agree********

There are Christian Jews as well as ones who follow Judaism,.
******Christian Jews are a small sect of who consider themselves to be 
Christians . They are mainly Jews who have converted to Christianity and 
they are seen as a threat to the Jewish Religion .

so it cannot be a religion

Judaism is a Religion and its followers are Jews. Please don't be as silly 
as to say that Jews/Judaism isn't a religion



>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:01 +0100 (BST)
>
>Jew is a race, not a national identity. There are Christian Jews as well as 
>ones who follow Judaism, so it cannot be a religion.
>
>flight Bringer <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>I'm afraid that I disagree . Jewish is a Religion.
>More Jews live outside Israel than inside Israel , so "Jewishness" cannot 
>be
>a National identity. Also milions of Israelis are Muslim (as well a
>Christian minority) , so Jewishness is not even Israels identity
>If Hitler regarded Jews as a race of people, then he was mistaken
>
> >From: "Robert Mallett"
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >band!)"
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
> >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:38:45 +0100
> >
> >Jew is a Religion
> >
> >No. Jewishness is a national identity as well as a religious ideology.
> >Hitler, bless him, regarded Jewish people as the lowest 'race' of all and
> >destined for annihilation.
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer"
> >
> >To:
> >Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:27 PM
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
> >
> >
> >>"The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
> >>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
> >>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
> >>
> >> No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like
> >>Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for
> >>being derogatory towards Jews.
> >> So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
> >>Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that 
>him
> >>being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people be
> >>judged on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>
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