[kj] OT:Ministry

[ade]

LORAH being a particular favourite - top choice!
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of MARK SAXTON
  Sent: 02 May 2006 22:08
  To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: RE: [kj] OT:Ministry


  I more or less agree, my faves being LORAH and MIATTTT.

  Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

    I think what first attracted me to Ministry was their gradual swing
towards the aggressive. I still think WITH SYMPATHY (which, I believe,
Jourgensen still refers to as "the abortion") is a great record (albeit VERY
much of its silly era). But I think the transitional albums between their
synth-pop/dance music period and their current none-more-black very metal
noise pollution phase (which continues today) are the most interesting
records in their catalog. I'm talking specifically about TWITCH and THE LAND
OF RAPE AND HONEY. As far as I'm concerned, they haven't really brought
anything new to the table since PSALM 69. Some fine, heavy, aggro moments,
but I miss their experimental spark. I'd love to hear Al try something new
again.

    Alex in NYC


    -----Original Message-----
    >From: ade
    >Sent: May 2, 2006 4:23 PM
    >To: 'TB' , "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
    >Subject: RE: [kj] OT:Ministry
    >
    >Ministry are getting very self-referential these days, which does put
me off
    >the new album a bit. My last fave was Filthpig & they've been patchy
since
    >then, for my tastes. Liked Houses of the Mole moreso as it was, well,
less
    >patchy. I enjoy Ministry's version of metal, but prefer them doing
something
    >more interesting!
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
    >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of TB
    >Sent: 02 May 2006 21:14
    >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
    >Subject: Re: [kj] OT:Ministry
    >
    >
    >"Steve Hackett" wrote:
    >
    >
    >New Ministry cd arrived on my mat today - direct from Big Als shop and
a
    >signed poster came as a separate delivery FOC,all the way from the US
of A
    >within 24 hrs of release - SEE JAZ!! Yer GoP could have been here too
if you
    >could be arsed!!
    >
    >btw its a damn fine album!
    >
    >+++++++++++++++++
    >
    >I picked it up this morning and "Rio Grande Blood" is as I expected, a
    >pretty relentless, over the top slam-fest that's about as anti-GW
Bush/US
    >government as it could possibly be with songs like Ass Clown, Yellow
Cake
    >and of course, The Great Satan. Some funny lyrics in places but the
sameness
    >of the music kinda wears thin after a few songs and one song
questioning
    >"who" was responsible for 9/11 (did planes *really* crash into the
WTC?") is
    >just plain obnoxiously stupid. I like Ministry a lot, but their output
over
    >the last decade has been real spotty, imo.
    >
    >On the other hand, the new Tool album right outta the shrink-wrap is
    >excellent. Although I saw them way back in late '92 opening for
Ministry, I
    >never got into them and up 'til today, never picked up any of their
albums.
    >Not just a few good songs, but a great "complete" album from start to
    >finish.
    >
    >T.B.
    >
    >
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