[kj] Hated footy players past n present & threats

[pssyche23]

... just to put Chelsea in their place ... I saw the TV doc with Frisk and I 
don't doubt that what Steve Clarke and the others saw may have been some 
innocent exchange of words rather than a deliberate attempt to influence the 
officials but once pandora's box was opened, UEFA was determined to stamp 
down on the (non-G14) new kid on the block, therefore I was referring 
specifically to the 'death threats' rather than suggesting there is a wider 
conspiracy against Chelsea FC ...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bluce ree" <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Hated footy players past n present & threats


if its a UEFA/Smokescreen thing then what did they
hope to achieve by making it up?

I dont see the pay off.  smearing chelsea wont undo
the difference that Roman's cash has made.


--- pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net> wrote:

> I'm 100% with PW on this one ... it's all a smoke
> screen ... it's more to do
> with Abramovich's wallet upsetting the corridors of
> power in UEFA ... I know
> from personal experience the power of suggestion can
> not be underestimated
> ... it is very easy to smear, the media prints
> anything that sells
> newspapers ... very quickly an unsubstantiated
> allegation becomes fact ...
> and  no matter how many times you keep batting away,
> once the seeds of doubt
> are sown, you're on a loser ... I would have thought
> death threats were
> serious stuff ... from a message board you can track
> who posted ... you
> don't need to be a fan to register on the boards ...
> whatever other "wind
> ups" Peter gets involved in, don't discount his
> opinion here as that of a
> biased Chelsea FC fan ... it's the voice of common
> sense ... Antoni
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "FLIGHT BRINGER" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [kj] Hated footy players past n present
>
>
> >I do not believe that death threats were sent.
> There has been no evidence
> >of the threats, no one has been prosecuted for them
> and no Authorities were
> >ever asked to investigate them. Frisk gave no
> details as to where they came
> >from (except that they were nt from london) . Frisk
> originally denied
> >illegally meeting Rijard at half time which was
> proven to be untrue (so
> >Frisk lied and changed his story when the truth
> came out). When people
> >started probing as to why he denied the half time
> meeting, he quit
> >...............due to death threats and refused to
> ever talk about what
> >happened.
> >   I was just saying that even IF he did  receive
> death threats , then it
> > should not have been taken seriously, due to the
> fact that its beyond the
> > realms of reality to suggest that a supporter
> would actually carry out the
> > threats.
> >  E-mails can be traced, so can telephone calls and
> so can letters. How
> > come no one was ever  traced and bought to
> justice?
> >    Its all a smoke screen . It doesn't make sense.
> There is a bigger story
> > . And quitting , not talking about it ever again
> was just an easy way out
> > for him.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: bluce ree <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the
> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>Subject: RE: [kj] Hated footy players past n
> present
> >>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:42:39 +0100 (BST)
> >>
> >>the debate isnt about whether or not a Chelsea fan
> has
> >>assasinated a referee.  It's about whether or not
> >>death threats were sent.
> >>
> >>these wall of text replies just make it harder to
> get
> >>to the point.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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