[kj] Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 27, Issue 72 stop knocking Geordie

happydays at dds.nl happydays at dds.nl
Sun Mar 12 12:26:03 EST 2006 

I really resent all this criticism on Geordie. He is who he is and
not only is he a great guy but he deserves to be accepted the way he is.
Please do not project your far fetched ideas of how he is supposed to
be on him. Also , he has his life with ups and downs , not always in
the mood to entertain. I have met him and talked with him for a while in
Amsterdam on oct. 3. He is a very nice guy and a guitar miracle !
I think the world will have to adapt to him , being the most creative
guitar player EVER , Clapton not even being worth to shine Geordies shoes !


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>    1. Re: KJ coffee mug (Paul Rangecroft)
>    2. Re: Pyramid Myth (Robert Mallett)
>    3. RE: Raven : not on the french tour.... (ade)
>    4. Re: Stop knocking Geordie! (Mike Cooper)
>    5. Re: Stop knocking Geordie! (Steve Hackett)
>    6. Re: Stop knocking Geordie! (Robert Mallett)
>    7. RE: Raven : not on the french tour.... (Nuclear Boy)
>    8. Re: Stop knocking Geordie! (GregSlawson at aol.com)
>    9. Re: Raven : not on the french tour.... (fluw)
>   10. Your counter attack, sir! (god botherer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:41:07 +0000
> From: "Paul Rangecroft" <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ coffee mug
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> Ideal for a milk-and-honey nightcap! (Or a green-and-yellow pill?)
>
> On 3/11/06, Jokers <circusbar at uol.com.br> wrote:
> >
> > this is for Alex in NYC,
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/KILLING-JOKE-Coffee-
Mug_W0QQitemZ7598177277QQcategoryZ58696QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > isn´t you that was looking after a KJ coffee mug???
> >
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > diaz
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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:07:03 -0000
> From: "Robert Mallett" <Robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Pyramid Myth
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> 'They are trying to tell me something.'
>
>
> erm, you need to get out more?
>
> bob
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:08:33 -0000
> From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: [KJ] Raven : not on the french tour....
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
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> I don't know why they don't just close their eyes. Never good enough for
> some....
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> Behalf Of Paul Rangecroft
>   Sent: 12 March 2006 11:39
>   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>   Subject: Re: [KJ] Raven : not on the french tour....
>
>
>   bollox
>
>   On 3/11/06, bluce ree <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>     Pete's right,
>
>     if you think back to Geordie during the two Tube sets
>     he was still reserved but also effortlessly cool.
>     with Geordie I always got a sense that he was thinking
>     'f**king hell my riffs are amazing'.
>
>     but the last few times I've seen the band he's been
>     really unenjoyable to watch (which I guess is
>     important at a gig) and just looks annoyed the whole
>     time.
>
>     Jaz tries his best but you feel like he's saying the
>     same thing every night and that its a little
>     impersonal and well Reza/Ben arent real KJ (plus Ben
>     looks like a honeymonster and Reza looks like he
>     should be in Depeche Mode).
>
>     Raven is clearly the majority of KJ's stage presence.
>
>     --- FLIGHT BRINGER <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>     wrote:
>
>     > The word that I would use to describe Geordie on
>     > stage is *apathetic*, he
>     > looks completely bored of doing yet another
>     > rendition of Wardance. Geordie
>     > seems more interesting in watching Jaz, than he does
>     > in entertaining . Is he
>     > shy, because he looks quite embarrassed on stage and
>     > he just sort of goes
>     > through the motions. He does look like he is
>     > *working* , rather than
>     > enjoying. If people really try, then they could
>     > convince themselves that
>     > this is infact what being cool is, but I just see it
>     > as "another day at the
>     > office" kind of expression.
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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:02:21 -0000
> From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> well said - couldn't agree more.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:54 PM
> Subject: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
>
>
> > Geordie is not a big-haired, perpetual adolescent cock-rocker. He doesn't
> > need to strike poses with his axe, since he is a grown-up. Don't worry,
> > he's all there and he loves playing live. I don't really care what he
> > looks like, because I'm only interested in what comes out of his guitar
> > (which is unearthly and endlessly fascinating), but having said that, he
> > seems pretty bloody cool to me.
> >
> > 'Zen like' and, as someone else said somehere further down, 'in the zone'
> > are very good ways of describing where he is, and this is how it's always
> > been.
> >
> > Anyway, never mind Jaz and Raven, I'm quite happy to watch Ben - he's a
> > fucking star!
> >
> > gb
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Robert Mallett" <Robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>Subject: Re: [KJ] Raven : not on the french tour....
> >>Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:42:36 -0000
> >>
> >>The word that I would use to describe Geordie on stage is *apathetic*, he
> >>looks completely bored of doing yet another rendition of Wardance. Geordie
> >>seems more interesting in watching Jaz, than he does in entertaining . Is
> >>he
> >>shy, because he looks quite embarrassed on stage and he just sort of goes
> >>through the motions. He does look like he is *working* , rather than
> >>enjoying. If people really try, then they could convince themselves that
> >>this is infact what being cool is, but I just see it as "another day at
> >>the
> >>office" kind of expression.
> >>
> >>
> >>Geordie has always appeared indifferent, zen like even. it 's the way the
> >>guy is. he lets the harp do all the talking, he's just the vehicle for the
> >>sound.
> >>
> >>bob
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:12:52 -0000
> From: "Steve Hackett" <thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> Ive got to admit that the amount of KJ knocking that goes on on the list
> you'd never believe we're all supposed to be fans - I'm not suggesting blind
> loyalty or that at times they're not downright frustrating and made poor
> business and artistic decisionsbut read some of the threads and you'd think
> they've done nothing worthwhile since the eighties.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
>
>
> > well said - couldn't agree more.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
> > To: <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:54 PM
> > Subject: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
> >
> >
> >> Geordie is not a big-haired, perpetual adolescent cock-rocker. He doesn't
> >> need to strike poses with his axe, since he is a grown-up. Don't worry,
> >> he's all there and he loves playing live. I don't really care what he
> >> looks like, because I'm only interested in what comes out of his guitar
> >> (which is unearthly and endlessly fascinating), but having said that, he
> >> seems pretty bloody cool to me.
> >>
> >> 'Zen like' and, as someone else said somehere further down, 'in the zone'
> >> are very good ways of describing where he is, and this is how it's always
> >> been.
> >>
> >> Anyway, never mind Jaz and Raven, I'm quite happy to watch Ben - he's a
> >> fucking star!
> >>
> >> gb
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Robert Mallett" <Robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
> >>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>><gathering at misera.net>
> >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>><gathering at misera.net>
> >>>Subject: Re: [KJ] Raven : not on the french tour....
> >>>Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:42:36 -0000
> >>>
> >>>The word that I would use to describe Geordie on stage is *apathetic*, he
> >>>looks completely bored of doing yet another rendition of Wardance.
> >>>Geordie
> >>>seems more interesting in watching Jaz, than he does in entertaining . Is
> >>>he
> >>>shy, because he looks quite embarrassed on stage and he just sort of goes
> >>>through the motions. He does look like he is *working* , rather than
> >>>enjoying. If people really try, then they could convince themselves that
> >>>this is infact what being cool is, but I just see it as "another day at
> >>>the
> >>>office" kind of expression.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Geordie has always appeared indifferent, zen like even. it 's the way the
> >>>guy is. he lets the harp do all the talking, he's just the vehicle for
> >>>the sound.
> >>>
> >>>bob
> >>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:04:35 -0000
> From: "Robert Mallett" <Robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> 'Ive got to admit that the amount of KJ knocking that goes on on the list
> you'd never believe we're all supposed to be fans - I'm not suggesting blind
> loyalty or that at times they're not downright frustrating and made poor
> business and artistic decisionsbut read some of the threads and you'd think
> they've done nothing worthwhile since the eighties.'
>
>
> well said mate. the fact is even when they were bad, they still had more
> fire and energy than the rest of the muso business put together. given the
> recent shows, live cd/dvd and new line up/scorching cd, we should surely be
> on a collective high. get a grip lads!
>
> bob
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:25:27 +0100
> From: "Nuclear Boy" <Nuclear.Boy at seznam.cz>
> Subject: RE: [KJ] Raven : not on the french tour....
> To: <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>,	"'A list about all things Killing Joke
> 	(the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
> Message-ID: <20060312152632.C67DC20B37B at mail.karneval.cz>
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> "Reza looks like he should be in Depeche Mode."
>
>
>
> That is no problem in my view. It would be much much worse if he would look
> like he should be in Motley Crue. :-)
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:49:47 EST
> From: GregSlawson at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
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> In a message dated 3/12/2006 9:13:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk writes:
>
> > Ive got to admit that the amount of KJ knocking that goes on on the list
> > you'd never believe we're all supposed to be fans - I'm not suggesting
> blind
> >
> > loyalty or that at times they're not downright frustrating and made poor
> > business and artistic decisionsbut read some of the threads and you'd think
> > they've done nothing worthwhile since the eighties.
> >
>
> Good point. At times this seems more like a nostalgia list, or an anti-KJ
> list. People should realize that with the exception of BTATS, Outside the
> Gate,and the limp Nighttime, most of their other stuff (even Pandemonium,
> about 1/2
> of Democracy, and 2003) is pretty good. (Ok, counter-attacks, please?) And as
> for the poor business/artistic decisions, I have long considered KJ more of a
> part-time band, which helps me live with their almost non-existence in the
> USA.
> (Trying to find someone here who'se even heard of them is getting harder and
> harder).
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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:05:58 -0500
> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [KJ] Raven : not on the french tour....
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> LOL
>
> Nuclear Boy wrote:
>
> >     "Reza looks like he should be in Depeche Mode..."
> >
> >
> >
> >     That is no problem in my view. It would be much much worse if he
> >     would look like he should be in Motley Crue. J
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:06:46 +0000
> From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [kj] Your counter attack, sir!
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> Can't let any criticism of my beloved Brighter Than a Thousand Suns go by
> without wishing to open the ears and the mind of the critic to this
> beautiful, beautiful album.
>
> And Night Time is not all that bad, is it?
>
>
> >From: GregSlawson at aol.com
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >To: gathering at misera.net
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Stop knocking Geordie!
> >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:49:47 EST
> >
> >In a message dated 3/12/2006 9:13:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk writes:
> >
> > > Ive got to admit that the amount of KJ knocking that goes on on the list
> > > you'd never believe we're all supposed to be fans - I'm not suggesting
> >blind
> > >
> > > loyalty or that at times they're not downright frustrating and made poor
> > > business and artistic decisionsbut read some of the threads and you'd
> >think
> > > they've done nothing worthwhile since the eighties.
> > >
> >
> >Good point. At times this seems more like a nostalgia list, or an anti-KJ
> >list. People should realize that with the exception of BTATS, Outside the
> >Gate,and the limp Nighttime, most of their other stuff (even Pandemonium,
> >about 1/2
> >of Democracy, and 2003) is pretty good. (Ok, counter-attacks, please?) And
> >as
> >for the poor business/artistic decisions, I have long considered KJ more of
> >a
> >part-time band, which helps me live with their almost non-existence in the
> >USA.
> >(Trying to find someone here who'se even heard of them is getting harder
> >and
> >harder).
>
>
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