[kj] Kerrang!/Hosannas/KJ2003

god botherer acroastic at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 1 10:05:03 EST 2006 

I heartily agree that the quality of the music on Brighter Than a Thousand 
Suns was amazing. I've never thought of it as being commercial just because 
it was smoother. It comes absolutely from the heart and is totally honest 
and grown up, and I can't say that KJ2003 is as honest and grown up. Of 
course I acknowledge that it's far from shit. Blood On Your Hands is very 
real, and Asteroid is great fun live, but mostly it doesn't move me the way 
that most of the Joke's music does - it's not as representative of the true 
spirit of Killing Joke as what we are about to receive (may the Lord make us 
truly thankful. Amen)

gb


>From: jpwhkj at aol.com
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang!/Hosannas/KJ2003
>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:35:53 -0500
>
>They *are* amazing albums, but I was disappointed by both of them at the 
>time, because they were clearly seeking a softer, more commercially 
>acceptable sound - a path which led unerringly to Outside the Gate.  In the 
>nineties, the more industrial sound became more commercially acceptable, 
>and KJ have produced albums that, whilst having some fine moments, are far 
>more mainstream than the first 3 or 4 albums were.
>
>I think the quality of the music on Brighter and Night Time is outstanding, 
>and I look forward to the remixed Brighter in particular...
>
>Jamie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:01:47 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang!/Hosannas/KJ2003
>
>  Well, both Nighttime and Brighter sound extremely
>commercial (or they did when they were released) and
>they're both amazing. I don't think it's pandering if
>the music you're writing is still quality. Which, i
>think, KJ2003 is. For the most part. BUt that's just
>me.
>
>Leigh
>
>--- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>OK, so nu-metal wasn't the best quick reference term
>>for a certain flavour
>>that was added to KJ2003, but I was trying to
>>describe the extent of the
>>pandering to, let's say, a particular sector of the
>>market - surely you know
>>what I mean.
>>
>>I now see that I'm not alone in my opinion:
>>
>>+++
>>
>>Killing Joke frontman Jaz Coleman has revealed to
>>Kerrang! that the
>>post-punk superheroes have returned to their roots
>>on their forthcoming,
>>13th studio album.
>>
>>Fans should expect a less commercial-sounding
>>offering from 'Hosannas From
>>The Basements Of Hell', the follow up to 2003's
>>'Killing Joke', after
>>guitarist Geordie Walker registered his
>>dissatisfaction with the band's last
>>album.
>>
>>"Geordie wasn't happy with the last one we did
>>because he thought it sounded
>>too commercial," Coleman admits. "This one's the
>>antithesis."
>>
>>+++
>>
>>- and all the better for that, I reckon. And it goes
>>to show that Geordie is
>>or should be the supreme arbiter of what goes.
>>
>>There's fact for you Leigh.
>>
>>
>>gb
>>
>>
>> >From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
>>(the band!)"
>> ><gathering at misera.net>
>> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>band!)"
>> ><gathering at misera.net>
>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Hosannas 1 KJ2003 0
>> >Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:36:07 -0500
>> >
>> >Is Nu-Metal even Nu-metal anymore? Seems about as
>>timely a term in  2006 as
>> >shoegazing and/or baggy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Alex in NYC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Leigh Newton wrote:
>> >
>> >>I reckon that 0.00000000000000% of KJ2003 is
>>nu-metal.
>> >>Fact, not opinion.
>> >>
>> >>Leigh
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>This new stuff pisses all over the cartoon
>>nu-metal
>> >>>of 2003. This is
>> >>>glorious. I'm hearing TRUE Killing Joke again and
>> >>>it's wonderful!
>> >>>
>> >>>Oddly, the two tracks officially available to
>>check
>> >>>out prior to release,
>> >>>i.e. Implosion and the title track are IMHO the
>> >>>least interesting tracks on
>> >>>the album, but still pretty fair.
>> >>>
>> >>>Here's a few things missing from the album:
>> >>>
>> >>>shit Youth tampering
>> >>>crap production
>> >>>pandering to the Kerrang audience (well, maybe a
>> >>>bit)
>> >>>lukewarm drumming
>> >>>weak tracks
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Concentrating all the efforts of the personnel on
>> >>>this project, and living
>> >>>and playing together lots like a real group
>>should,
>> >>>having a shit hot
>> >>>drummer and turning up the volume on (still) the
>> >>>most extraordinary sound
>> >>>these ears know of (that beatiful Geordie guitar)
>> >>>have all paid off - and
>> >>>they've remembered to make it danceable!
>> >>>
>> >>>Above all, the genuine passion shines through,
>>and I
>> >>>get those goose pimples
>> >>>again which have been so rare since 1991 (with
>>the
>> >>>honourable exception of
>> >>>Aeon and one or two other bits from Pandemonium
>>and
>> >>>Democracy).
>> >>>
>> >>>Hope when I buy the real thing Geordie doesn't
>>get
>> >>>turned down in the mix
>> >>>(again).
>> >>>
>> >>>Whaddyareckon?
>> >>>
>> >>>gb
>> >>>
>> >>>
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