[kj] R.I.P. James Brown - Is this allowed?

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I confidently predict new year will be the same

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <BSCrack at UltimateEmail.com>; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown - Is this allowed?



> Just come back from my Christmas break and found a big row brewing.  I was

> wondering what people got for Christmas - is this allowed?  Good!  I got

the

> Crass book, the Ian Glasson book on anarcho punk bands and Banksy Walls

and

> Peace which are all brill.  Wot a scoop!  To top it all my brother got me

> and my 6 year old son a ticket to see the mighty Swindon Town.  It was his

> first ever game, my late father took me at six - it was a very emotional

> experience for me, that I did actually nearly cry.  He loved it and we

> fucking won as well - best present I have ever had EVER.  Needless to say

> the bug is back and god bless Paul Sturrock and Christian (no shinpads)

> Roberts!

>

> My other brother got me the Katie Melua or something CD.  I ask you.  I

have

> been annoying him with punk rock etc since the late 70's and this was

> clearly my punishment.  Anybody want a Kate thingy album before I stickon

> ebay (ungrateful sod that I am).

>

> There.  Wot did anyone else get?

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "BS Crack" <BSCrack at UltimateEmail.com>

> To: <vassifer at earthlink.net>; <gathering at misera.net>

> Cc: <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:48 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

>

>

> >

> > I personally dislike all the outlandish claims people make after someone

> > died. Claims that bear no resemblance to reality, for example:

> > "but the man's influence extends far and wide beyond simply funk and hip

> > hop (neither of which would've existed without his contributions)"

> > Alex: Do you really believe that had James Brown not entered the music

> > business then funk and hip hop would never have been invented? James

Brown

> > had predecessors who influenced him , music is an evolving form and

> > numerous people have contributed to musics evolution. To say that One

man

> > is solely responsible for not one, but two genres of music is a huge

> > exaggeration.

> > If James Brown hadnt have been born, then music today would still be

> > exactly the same as it is now.

> > He was just as famous for his dance steps than he was for the music he

> > made. Can anyone sing ten James Brown

songs?...........five?.........well

> > apart from his two famous songs, can anyone sing or hum any of his other

> > tunes? Because I certainly cant.

> >

> > "James Brown practically *INVENTED* stage presence"

> > So you are saying that before James Brown there was nt anybody who had

any

> > "stage presence"? I cant disagree because I dont know .

> >

> > "And judging James Brown via his cameos in "The Blues Brothers" or

"Rocky

> > IV" or whatever is like judging Killing Joke solely by OUTSIDE THE

GATE."

> >

> > Well no. James Browns contribution to the Rocky film gave him his only

UK

> > Number 1.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- vassifer at earthlink.net wrote:

> >

> > From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> > <gathering at misera.net>, "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> > band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:16:31 -0500 (EST)

> >

> >

> > "The only music he influenced was crap..."

> >

> > Sorry, Mik, but this is just a patently ridiculous statement. Again, I'm

> > not saying you have to like James Brown, but the man's influence extends

> > far and wide beyond simply funk and hip hop (neither of which would've

> > existed without his contributions). James Brown practically *INVENTED*

> > stage presence -- Iggy Pop, Robert Plant, Ian McCulloch, Jaz Coleman,

Joe

> > Stummer -- none of them can top, let alone touch what James Brown was.

He

> > was as crucial a performer/innovator/artist as anyone you can name.

> >

> > This just reminds me of the Beatles conversation we had a couple of

weeks

> > ago. I know it seems like a really, punky, iconoclastic thing to say

that

> > you don't like James Brown (who was inarguably "punker" than any band

you

> > can name -- listen to "Say It Loud, I"m Black & I"m Proud" and consider

> > the context of the times), but to not recognize his influence and

> > contribution just makes you seem a bit narrow, misinformed and, frankly,

> > dim.

> >

> > And judging James Brown via his cameos in "The Blues Brothers" or "Rocky

> > IV" or whatever is like judging Killing Joke solely by OUTSIDE THE GATE.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > and he was just a criminal who some people thought

> >>> could sing.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> >>From: Mik Raven <mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk>

> >>Sent: Dec 26, 2006 11:55 AM

> >>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

> >><gathering at misera.net>

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> >>

> >>No I can't hear anything I like whatsoever in his music. Does that make

me

> >>myopic? Guess I'll go find my reading glasses then! :-) Actually, never

> >>been

> >>a big fan of change either. IMHO not one of the Joke's better ditties.

> >>

> >>Mik

> >>

> >>-----Original Message-----

> >>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> >>On

> >>Behalf Of Stephen Robinson

> >>Sent: 26 December 2006 10:39

> >>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (t

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> >>

> >>You can't hear the power, excitment and simple funk power in his beats?

> >>

> >>If the only music he influenced was crap, do that mean you think Change

> >>was

> >>crap?

> >>

> >>> James Brown was shit but the Blues Brothers was quite an entertaining

> >>> film. I will not shed a tear for James Brown but dread the endless

> >>> tributes that are bound to follow his death. The only music he

> >>> influenced was crap and he was just a criminal who some people thought

> >>> could sing.

> >>>

> >>> Mik

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