[kj] gems

[BS Crack]

Well , I should nt think that you'd get a refund . It's very unlikely that the money is sitting in a Bank somewhere. The money has probably been spent an production costs and I cant see anyone at KJ putting their hands in their pockets to reimburse you. 
You are owed merchandise, but KJ cant really send out copies of Gems until its ready for general release, otherwise it will get uploaded and no one will buy it if/when it hits the shops . If thats not bad enough, It seems like Raven was organising everything to do with GoP and hes no longer with the band (although he may come back and even if he does, he may want to forget about GoP 
So will you get a refund? I cant see it. Will you get a copy of Gems of power? I cant see it being released. 
The best thing that you can do is write the money off and just hope that someone gets their act together.




--- mkolmar at gmail.com wrote:

From: "Mark Kolmar" <mkolmar at gmail.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] gems
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:42:16 -0600

I can absorb the loss -- I already don't have the money on hand -- or
else I wouldn't have fronted the money. Still, fronting money is a
sacred trust. The amount is unimportant. It's the principle of the
thing. I invested a small amount in the project, and require a status
update. They owe the merchandise, a refund, or an explanation.

--Mark

On 12/14/06, Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> wrote:


> I doubt the legal position is any worse than taking money for goods and then

> not supplying said goods . .

>

> We should write to Watchdog :o)

>

>

> Marc.

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rob's Arse [mailto:joker at Z6.com]

> Sent: 13 December 2006 17:27

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] gems

>

>

>

> What would the situation be if someone had access to a copy of Gems and had

> paid for the official release but never received anything??

>

> If these copies were lent to other people, would that be illegal if they

> were lent and no money changed hands?

>

> I don't know the legal situation. Seriously, if there is someone with the

> definitive word out there I would be interested in hearing about it/

>

> Say this scenario were to potentially happen, do you think that this might

> galvanize those behind the project to actually do what is right and either

> send people their stuff or refund the money.

>

> God forbid that an angry mob should strip the merch stall next time killing

> joke played anywhere....

>

> Just a thought you understand.......

>

> i wonder if Mat still gets these mails??

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