[kj] OT Murder Ballads
    Janean Lancaster 
    Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk
       
    Wed Dec 20 11:00:29 EST 2006
    
    
  
<<<It may have been  a nice song ,>>>
 
Was it?  I thought it was sad and grisly, meself.
 
<<< but do you think  that the grisly act of murder should be sanitised
and portrayed as an acceptable thing in the name of making art ?>>>
 
I didn't think it was portrayed as acceptable.
 
<<< It also ignores the suffering of Kylies family and also doesnt show
Cave spending a long time in jail . >>>
 
Kylie's family?  Why would they be suffering?  It's a fictional
character.
 
<<<Should artistes act responsibly when making music, knowing that their
lyrics may influence people who listen to the music?>>>
 
Psychos will murder people whether they've listened to tunes or not.  I
think Nick Cave's song was responsibly written - he wasn't telling us
about how good murdering is.
 
<<<I used to listen to Gangsta rap, but kept getting the urge to go and
do a drive by shooting, so I now listen to Boney M>>>
 
Oh, you got me!  I thought you were being serious.  Thank God you were
only winding us up.  I got sucked into that one.
 
Cheers,
Janean
 
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT Murder Ballads
 
 
 It may have been  a nice song , but do you think  that the grisly act
of murder should be sanitised and portrayed as an acceptable thing in
the name of making art ? I dont think so.
    The video to the song  replicates the recent Suffolk murders, (Well
the other way around actually: The recent Suffolk murders replicate the
Cave/Kylie song) . Kylie is laying there all beautiful and serene whilst
Cave goes about bashing her over the head , whilst ignoring the reality
what would be her crushed skull and parts of her brain flying everywhere
. It also ignores the suffering of Kylies family and also doesnt show
Cave spending a long time in jail .
   Should artistes act responsibly when making music, knowing that their
lyrics may influence people who listen to the music?
  I used to listen to Gangsta rap, but kept getting the urge to go and
do a drive by shooting, so I now listen to Boney M
......................................but I now get the urge to do a
Brown girl in the ring...........tr la la la laaaaa
--- Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk wrote:
From: "Janean Lancaster" <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Murder Ballads
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:51:44 -0000
I love Stagger Lee - especially Blixa's screaming crescendo.
And the Kylie song is class.  Immensely sad, that feeling of loss/grief
from the murder of a young girl (the character Elisa Day, not Kylie). 
Cheers, 
Janean 
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Subject: [kj] OT Murder Ballads 
one of the best songs in this album is Song Of Joy, very sad and
melancolic 
  
diaz 
  
  
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