[kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?

[shaun]

I don't understand all the negativity over Hossanas, I think it's a great
album, maybe not as strong
as the selftitled 2003 album, but definatley on form and certainly no where
near their worst. If KJ, where to finish I think they would have done so
years ago. No I reckon they may take a break for 2-3-4 years and then
release another album to blow us all away
again.

I've said before, there are no other contenders coming forward to take the
crown, so let KJ live on. Unless they dip
back into some of their dodgy 80's stuff, which i doubt would happen again.
As thats normaly down to the record companies
fault, trying to make a newly signed band the next pop sensation, and when
they have paid you x amounts of millions to record
x amounts of albums most bands don't have a say what shit the company puts
out. Not until they have made that money back treblefold
for the company anyway. And if a band gets shelved by the company, for later
release, then ultimatly the bands disintergrate under a lot of debt,the
record companies then release any old crap, to try and recover their money
whilst the bands get stuck with the rep of going shite.

Thankfully I beleive and hope, KJ are well passed that stage.

Long live the Joke
Shaun

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   1. Re: [spam] Re: Goldblade (fatpotanga)
   2. Re: Tribal Freedom (B. Oliver Sheppard)
   3. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (Jokers)
   4. Re: Tribal Freedom (Neil Perry)
   5. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (GREG SLAWSON)
   6. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (fatpotanga)
   7. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (Lennonka)
   8. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (Lennonka)
   9. Re: Raven article/interview (Giorgio Tebaldi)
  10.  HOSANNAS REPORT CARD (Alex Smith)
  11. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (Alex Smith)
  12. Re: Killing Joke - Is that it? (Tinsoldier645527 at aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:02:44 +0000
From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] [spam] Re: Goldblade
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On 6/12/06 10:10, "Phillipps Marc" wrote:


> Culture?

>

> Manchester??

>

> I find that hard to believe . .


Believe it Marc.
Although when people refer to culture it generally means bacteria.

=:?)




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:49:10 -0600
From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Tribal Freedom
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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All I did was ask a question.

I love Hosannas -- a great, sludgy opener, then right into a thrashy
number, with Jaz exploring, as I've said before, more of the Lemmy side
of his vocals, which I think is fantastic. It's the 1987 - 1998 KJ I
can't stand, with the exception of some songs on Pandemonium that have
held up well despite time's best efforts ("White Out" and a couple of
others.) But, yep, excellent album. And, no, I'm not frozen in 1999. I
mentioned Tragedy, World Burns to Death, who also released great LPs
this year - heard of them? Let me guess.

-Oliver


Leigh Newton wrote:

> Korn? Christina Aguliria? Have you been frozen in ice since 1999 or

something? Hosannas is a horrible album by a once great band. Every band
starts to suck eventually. Unless they call it quits first. It's hard to
come to terms with the eventual suckitude but, darnitall, it's the right
thing to do.

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

<gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 10:29:03 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tribal Freedom

>

>

> You mean to like Korn or like Christina Aguilera standards?

>

> Hosannas was great. One of the Top 10 LPs of 2006, in any event.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

>

>




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:37:24 -0200
From: "Jokers" <circusbar at uol.com.br>
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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the funny thing about Hosannas is that only us gatheres are insatisfied with
the album, everyone I put the record to listen to, that are not acompaning
their carreer, finds the album very powerful!!


Gustavo Diaz
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:06:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Tribal Freedom
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An old friend of mine who saw KJ with me in 1982 and who
has hardly listened to them since thinks Hosannas is amazing
(I made them listen to it). She knew instantly it was Killing Joke.

(And you're thinking, so... what...)

Thing is, I just don't get it; I don't understand why some
gatherers think Hosannas is so bad. I'm listening to a
career-spanning CD I made right now and the Hosannas
tracks sit perfectly, mixed up with everything else. Nothing to make
you think, Ooh, this must have been their shit period.
Judas Goat? Stunning. Invocation, Majestic (which has a
*very* Firedances-y section in it), Lightbringer, Walking With Gods -
fantastic stuff. Dripping with the essence of Killing Joke.
Implosion would have sat comfortably on Extremities. Like
I say, I Just. Don't. Get. It. I hope for your sakes it isn't their last.

N



Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> wrote: Korn? Christina Aguliria? Have
you been frozen in ice since 1999 or something? Hosannas is a horrible album
by a once great band. Every band starts to suck eventually. Unless they call
it quits first. It's hard to come to terms with the eventual suckitude but,
darnitall, it's the right thing to do.

----- Original Message ----
From: B. Oliver Sheppard
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 10:29:03 PM
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You mean to like Korn or like Christina Aguilera standards?

Hosannas was great. One of the Top 10 LPs of 2006, in any event.

-Oliver




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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:15:45 +0000
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On 6/12/06 13:05, "GREG SLAWSON" wrote:


> I have a 16 year old student who loves "Invocation"


That was my favourite subject when I was at school as well.

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:09:09 +0100
From: "Lennonka" <svoje.ja at centrum.cz>
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?
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I will do it.
And I'm serious.

Lennonka
______________________________________________________________

> Od: robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk

> Komu: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Datum: 06.12.2006 09:26

> P?edm?t: Re: [kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?

>

>Need to get Jeremy and Kevin off the juice - nice trick if you can do it

>Nah, it's all over

>Bob

>  ----- Original Message -----

>  From: Neil Perry

>  To: KJ KJ

>  Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:45 AM

>  Subject: [kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?

>

>

>  So what does everybody think - is this the end of Killing Joke?

>  Will we ever see another record/tour?

>  Pooling our resources, and what we know via band members/gossip etc...

>  does anyone know?

>  Just curious to know your thoughts. Personally, I will be enormously

surprised if they ever get back out on the road again. But I'd like to be
proved wrong.

>  N

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:02:35 +0100
From: "Lennonka" <svoje.ja at centrum.cz>
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?
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Killing Joke are not and can't be ever dead.

Lennonka
______________________________________________________________

> Od: neilfperry at btinternet.com

> Komu: KJ KJ <gathering at misera.net>

> Datum: 06.12.2006 03:45

> P?edm?t: [kj] Killing Joke - Is that it?

>

>So what does everybody think - is this the end of Killing Joke?

>Will we ever see another record/tour?

>Pooling our resources, and what we know via band members/gossip etc...

>does anyone know?

>Just curious to know your thoughts. Personally, I will be enormously

surprised if they ever get back out on the road again. But I'd like to be
proved wrong.

>N

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:53:20 +0100 (CET)
From: Giorgio Tebaldi <gftebaldi at yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: [kj] Raven article/interview
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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Thanks for the link - interesting interview.

  Ziltch? James Addiction?? At least he got Killin Joke right. :-)

meddle <_meddle at cox.net> schrieb:
  By Patrick Ogle of Thanatos, Illegalteenagebikini, etc:

http://www.gearwire.com/paul-raven-killing-joke-ministry-prong.html


Mark


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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:54:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: [kj]  HOSANNAS REPORT CARD
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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BECAUSE NO ONE ASKED FOR IT:

...according to Alex in NYC. You make your own.

Hosannas Report Card:

Jaz Coleman: Grade: C-. Jaz, your heart is in the right place, it seems, but
you're trying to get by solely on hype and bluster. You're not spending
enough time with your songwriting, which is deplorably evident in your
lyrics. Your voice is shot from all the cigars and the wine. Apply yourself
and you won't have to keep reminding people of your genius. Your work will
speak for itself. Also, learn to get along with others and to compromise.
There is no "I" in "team."

Geordie - Grade: B+.  While I still pine for the days of the "bell" tone,
Geordie continues to hand in top drawer work. Go to the head of the class,
Mr. Walker.

Raven - Grade: B. Were it in my power, I'd give you higher marks for effort,
but much of your contributions have been lost in the shuffle. Your
classmates are largely to blame for your failure to be heard. Still, you get
bonus credit for all your extracurriculur work, and you set a shining
example that your classmates would do well to follow (though I won't hold my
breath). You also have the best school spirit. Keep it up. You're the one to
watch.

Benjamin - Grade: B- . Don't be discouraged. Not only are you "the new kid
in school," like your wingman, Paul Raven (pardon the pun), your
contributions to the project were laregly buried in the mix. The bits that
do rise to the surface are respectable enough, but there is still room for
improvement. Keep it up and do not be discouraged by the bullies in the
class.

Production - Grade: D -.  A muddled, busy, mess. You should all be ashamed
of yourselves.

Album Artwork - Grade C-. While I admire your attempt at a fresh approach,
I'm afraid this particular experiment backfired. Also, your scribbling over
the canvas only added insult to injury. Unfortunate. Several points off.


-----Original Message-----

>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Sent: Dec 6, 2006 5:49 AM

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

<gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Tribal Freedom

>

>All I did was ask a question.

>

>I love Hosannas -- a great, sludgy opener, then right into a thrashy

>number, with Jaz exploring, as I've said before, more of the Lemmy side

>of his vocals, which I think is fantastic. It's the 1987 - 1998 KJ I

>can't stand, with the exception of some songs on Pandemonium that have

>held up well despite time's best efforts ("White Out" and a couple of

>others.) But, yep, excellent album. And, no, I'm not frozen in 1999. I

>mentioned Tragedy, World Burns to Death, who also released great LPs

>this year - heard of them? Let me guess.

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>Leigh Newton wrote:

>> Korn? Christina Aguliria? Have you been frozen in ice since 1999 or

something? Hosannas is a horrible album by a once great band. Every band
starts to suck eventually. Unless they call it quits first. It's hard to
come to terms with the eventual suckitude but, darnitall, it's the right
thing to do.

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----

>> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

<gathering at misera.net>

>> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 10:29:03 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Tribal Freedom

>>

>>

>> You mean to like Korn or like Christina Aguilera standards?

>>

>> Hosannas was great. One of the Top 10 LPs of 2006, in any event.

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:56:16 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:56:09 EST
From: Tinsoldier645527 at aol.com
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I'm a 16 year old student and I love all of Killing Jokes music.Not so much
Hosannas,but its growing on me.Killing Joke are pretty much the only band I
listen to anymore,other bands get boring too quickly.Thats what I  like
about
Killing Joke,they explore different styles of music rather than  sticking to
the same old shit

In a message dated 06/12/2006 13:06:30 GMT Standard Time,
gregslawson at msn.com writes:

I have a  16 year old student who loves "Invocation"





Oppression and restriction,regulation rule and law,
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