[kj] "you really are not a real KJ fan"

Jari Pakarinen jari at suddendeafness.net
Thu Aug 24 15:29:15 EDT 2006


Hi. My name is Jari and I have the Stephanie album (applaud).

I think it's great.

Jari

Alex Smith kirjoitti 24.8.2006 kello 17.28:

>
> Yeah, I'm not proud of my Marillion album, but I shan't part with  
> it. Oddly enough, inspired by the latest ish of Q, I started  
> compiling a master list of "guilty pleasure" albums for my entirely  
> needless weblog. Among that list are names that would surely get me  
> booted through the uprights by even your average strident Marillion  
> fan.
>
> The most tragic, ridicule-worthy album I own by miles and miles:  
> PICTURE BOOK by Simply Red. As abjectly indefensible as it is, I  
> own it because back in the Summer `86, I worked as a surly,  
> underpaid dishwasher at a snobby place out in the `Hamptons called  
> THE BAREFOOT CONTESSA. To be fair, the place had a relaxed vibe.  
> There was a stereo in the front of store with speakers the played  
> in the kitchen. At first, the management were pretty liberal about  
> it. We could all bring in tapes (remember them?) and play whatever  
> we wanted (within reason). This worked well enough for a while. I  
> stupidly pushed the envelope a bit too hard one day, though, when I  
> brought in SNAP!, the compilation of tracks by the Jam (pretty  
> harmless, I thought). Well, during the middle of -- either "Eton  
> Rifles" or "Funeral Pyre" -- the manager came scrambling back in a  
> frothy-rage (no love for Mr. Weller, I guess). In any case, from  
> that day forward, only *two* tapes (count'em: 2) were allowed to be  
> played. Those two tapes: the soundtrack to "Annie" and PICTURE BOOK  
> by Simply Red. Adding insult to injury, the tape deck out front was  
> set to auto-replay, so after a tape had played both its sides, it  
> would START OVER AGAIN. The meant that we'd be treated to seemingly  
> endless rotations. After a day or two, someone actually STOLE the  
> "Annie" soundtrack tape -- honest, it wasn't me -- and invariably  
> snapped it in half and buried it out back. That left us with  
> PICTURE BOOK by Simpy Red -- over and over and over and over and  
> over again. After a week or so, my fellow-dishdog Bill evidently  
> reached the end of his teather and climbed up ontop of one of the  
> freezers to disconnect the spearker wires that fed back into the  
> kitchen, liberating us from Mick Hucknal's sickly whine. After  
> that, we brought in our own boom box and subjected the kitcen staff  
> to a steady diet of Iron Maiden and Black Flag. Good times.
>
> At the end of the summer, I went back to school and found myself  
> missing my summer at the Barefoot Contessa. And nothing brought  
> back the memories of my friends and experiences there like hearing  
> PICTURE BOOK by Simply Red. So that's why I bought it and that's  
> why I still own it. Plus -- I hate to say it -- the wife quite  
> likes it.
>
> Still, try to tell me I'm not a real Killing Joke fan, and you can  
> expect pugilism!
>
> BEAT THAT, SCORPIONS FANS!!
>
> Alex in NYC
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paula Cook <cook_paula at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Aug 24, 2006 9:31 AM
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Subject: RE: [kj] "you really are not a real KJ fan"
>>
>> Hear, hear, Alex, absolutely!
>>
>> Isn't it a fact that what makes KJ so special is that they've  
>> fused so many
>> differenct types of music - punk, funk, dub, disco, early metal,  
>> arabic folk
>> and yes, though I'm pained to admit it, prog rock, and came out  
>> with a
>> completely new and unique sound and style? And isn't it this  
>> unique sound
>> and style the very thing that has attracts people with very different
>> musical tastes?
>>
>> I'm still appalled you own a Marillion LP though! ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nuclear Girl
>>
>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:50:16 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>>> From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: [kj] "you really are not a real KJ fan"
>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>> 	<gathering at misera.net>, 	"A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>> 	band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>>
>>>
>>> "you really are not a real KJ fan"
>>>
>>>
>>> I really hate this fucking comment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Killing Joke fans come in all shapes, sizes, creeds, colors,  
>>> nationalities
>>> and can all entirely disparate sensibilities and tastes while  
>>> still being
>>> bona fide Killing Joke fans. In much the same way that THE BAND  
>>> MEMBERS
>>> THEMSELVES claim to like such arguably dubiously-credible artists as
>>> SLIPKNOT (Raven), Van Halen (Geordie), AC/DC (Geordie), Adam &  
>>> the Antz
>>> (Jaz), Yes (Big Paul Ferguson), King Crimson (Big Paul Ferguson),  
>>> so too
>>> are their fans "allowed" to like other artists, regardless of their
>>> affiliation with genre.
>>>
>>> Moreover, all this fucking whining about talking about other  
>>> bands other
>>> than the `Joke -- imagine being invited to a party at a friend's  
>>> house and
>>> then being informed upon your arrival that you and the rest of  
>>> the guests
>>> were ONLY ALLOWED TO DISCUSS ONE SINGLE TOPIC. It's ridiculous.  
>>> You'd get
>>> bored and leave.
>>>
>>> At least people are bringing other names to the table. I can't  
>>> speak for
>>> the rest of the list, but from discussing bands OTHER than  
>>> Killing Joke all
>>> the time, I've found out about a lot of artists I may never have  
>>> gotten to
>>> hear before, based on the testaments by my fellow `Jokers. If you  
>>> don't
>>> like the artist being discussed, fine. Hell, you can even say so.  
>>> But to
>>> tell people to stop talking about it is fucking stupid and  
>>> dictatorial.
>>>
>>> And at least it's music we're discussing and not fucking sports.
>>>
>>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
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