[kj] Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 32, Issue 50 French interview

Fri Aug 18 07:09:50 EDT 2006

I hope I'm doing this right; I've never posted anything here...

This is the last paragraph of the french interview. The translation all but perfect, but I'm quite sure I haven't altered the meaning. You may think this is out of context, but it isn't - it came out of the blue as an answer to a question about KJ playing festivals. ;-) 

Let me tell you something: You see KJ as a band. I don't. I see KJ as an idea, a dream. KJ can be a book, a movie. KJ can be whatever support you like. I don't restrict myself and I never allow the stereotypes of Rock'n'Roll to dictate myself. [or control myself] Thaht's why I like/love working with orchestras, I like new challenges. I like doing lectures, I like doing stuff I never have done before. I like being afraid. I like to tell myself: "Why, Jaz? Why did you accept that? Now you have to do it." I like throwing myself into the fire.
Once I'm in cycle of fire and I break out of it, I realize it was all peanuts [meaning ridiculous, meaningless]. Everybody can achieve what they want to. Everybody has that power. God has given a gift to everybody. For me that gift is more far off, as I have a long nose. (laughs) [don't know if that's meant literally or if it's a french saying] I sense/suspect the fact [sic] of having a ower/talent that is not limited to music. There is something else and I have to survive this demented life to find out about it/know it. I have to sleep with an alarm device that monitors my heartbeat, as I have a problem with that. But there is always a problem. 
You have to observe the people. You have to be suspicious and paranoid. Paranoia and exhaustion are your best friends. (his wife [sic] Brenda giggles) Yeah, because you know nothing about creativity, young lady. Paranoia is... well look at Salvadore Dali. The paranoid, critical method. He picked [stole] that from Yves Tanguy. Does anybody know him here? They also call him Papa Tanguy. That's how Salvadore Dali called him. Tanguy lived in Carnac. He dreamt of methods like sleeping while being awake. How do you sleep when you're awake? Naturally the french know how to do that, because they drink a lot during their good meals and they've learned to stay awake while they're fast asleep. This gives them visions.
Tanguy to me is the only one, the unique. There are always those who stand in the shade of better ones. Not Tanguy, not Dali and not Victor Safonkin. Tanguy has learnt to sleep awake while continuating his conversation and while painting. He then put a number representative of that energy. [sic, probably: He then gave the energy a representative number] It's him who initiated that. I'm going to finish the interview by giving a toast to Yves Tanguy but also to Tanguy who works for our french record company; he does a lot for us. Double trouble (laughs) Cheers! The interview is over (laughs).

The interviewer thanks Jaz for doing the interview after the gig around 3:00 in the morning, his wife [?] for her patience and the guy from the record company for arranging it all.

P.S.: By "20 livres par jour" Jaz does not mean 20 books per day, but GBP. :-) 

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>   1. GOF at Koko and KJ at B' Days (Brian Whitehead)
>   2. Requiem vs. Butcher (James Osborne)
>   3. Re: Requiem vs. Butcher (Neil Perry)
>   4. Re: Requiem vs. Butcher (James Osborne)
>   5. Re: GOF at Koko and KJ at B' Days (sade1)
>   6. Re: Requiem vs. Butcher (Leigh Newton)
>   7. Re: Requiem vs. Butcher (Paul Rangecroft)
>   8. Re: Requiem vs. Butcher (Paul Rangecroft)
>   9. Re: French interview (John Carville)
>  10. Re: Re: French interview (bongo)
>  11. RE: Re: French interview (Phillipps Marc)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:28:37 +0100
>From: "Brian Whitehead" <bawhitehead at gmail.com>
>Subject: [kj] GOF at Koko and KJ at B' Days
>To: gathering at misera.net
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>Some half price tickets on sale for the Gang Of Four gig at Koko in case it
>may sway you.
>
>http://www.piccadillyboxoffice.com/event_availability.asp?EventId=42729&PerformanceId=3324224
>
>Off down to Beautiful Days at 5 in the morning, so hopefully I'll see one or
>two of you down there.
>
>My absolutely out of nowhere guess at the set list...
>
>Communion
>Wardance
>Total Invasion
>Unspeakable
>Bloodsport
>Gratitude
>Asteroid
>Whiteout
>The Wait
>Pssyche
>Pandemonium
>Requiem
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>Brian. just packing my wellies
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:10:52 -0400
>From: James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net>
>Subject: [kj] Requiem vs. Butcher
>To: gathering at misera.net
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>Trying this again. My first message didn't seem to go through as I 
>didn't see it back in my Inbox, here was the message:
>
>So I did a little experiment. I sped Requiem up to 200bpm's but lowered 
>the pitch by -8 semitones. The opening synth line then sounds almost to 
>a T the same as the synth line in Butcher.
>
>-- 
>James Osborne
>james_social at circlewithadot.net
>
>Japanese Music Information -> www.circlewithadot.net
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:25:29 +0100 (BST)
>From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Requiem vs. Butcher
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
>        <gathering at misera.net>
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>You should get out more!
>
>Having said that, I was just watching Top Gear at work
>(I know, I know...) and they used Pandemonium, Exorcism
>and Invocation as background music. 
>
>I should get out more.
>
>
>James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net> wrote: Trying this again. My first message didn't seem to go through as I 
>didn't see it back in my Inbox, here was the message:
>
>So I did a little experiment. I sped Requiem up to 200bpm's but lowered 
>the pitch by -8 semitones. The opening synth line then sounds almost to 
>a T the same as the synth line in Butcher.
>
>-- 
>James Osborne
>james_social at circlewithadot.net
>
>Japanese Music Information -> www.circlewithadot.net
>Nuclear Boy, A Worthless Blog -> www.nuclear-boy.com
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:23:32 -0400
>From: James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Requiem vs. Butcher
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>LOL. Me and my girlfriend where just fucking around one night messing  
>with different tracks. We started off tweaking around with Public  
>Image Ltd tracks and decided it would be funny to hear Jaz sing all  
>sped up but at a real low tone. That's how I found out. It wasn't  
>like I was meaning to discover this, haha.
>
>
>On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:25 PM, Neil Perry wrote:
>
>> You should get out more!
>>
>> Having said that, I was just watching Top Gear at work
>> (I know, I know...) and they used Pandemonium, Exorcism
>> and Invocation as background music.
>>
>> I should get out more
>
>
>--
>
>James Osborne
>james_social at circlewithadot.net
>
>Japanese Music Information -> www.circlewithadot.net
>Nuclear Boy, worthless blog -> www.nuclear-boy.com
>Last.FM Music Blog -> www.last.fm/user/chuuzetsu
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:24:20 -0700 (PDT)
>From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] GOF at Koko and KJ at B' Days
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
>        <gathering at misera.net>
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>For whoever makes this show, you will not be disappointed, if their L.A. performance in nov. '05 is any indication.  They're better to watch than  most any other bands i've seen, even Killing Joke. Not to be missed.
>   ~~ S
>Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>    Some half price tickets on sale for the Gang Of Four gig at Koko in case it may sway you.
>   
>  http://www.piccadillyboxoffice.com/event_availability.asp?EventId=42729&PerformanceId=3324224
>   
>  Off down to Beautiful Days at 5 in the morning, so hopefully I'll see one or two of you down there.
>   
>  My absolutely out of nowhere guess at the set list... 
>   
>  Communion
>Wardance
>Total Invasion
>Unspeakable
>Bloodsport
>Gratitude
>Asteroid
>Whiteout
>The Wait
>Pssyche
>Pandemonium
>Requiem
>   
>   
>  Brian. just packing my wellies
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:02:12 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Requiem vs. Butcher
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>Try and make a soundfile, if you can. That sounds
>interesting.
>
>Leigh
>
>
>--- James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net>
>wrote:
>
>> Trying this again. My first message didn't seem to
>> go through as I 
>> didn't see it back in my Inbox, here was the
>> message:
>> 
>> So I did a little experiment. I sped Requiem up to
>> 200bpm's but lowered 
>> the pitch by -8 semitones. The opening synth line
>> then sounds almost to 
>> a T the same as the synth line in Butcher.
>> 
>> -- 
>> James Osborne
>> james_social at circlewithadot.net
>> 
>> Japanese Music Information -> www.circlewithadot.net
>> Nuclear Boy, A Worthless Blog -> www.nuclear-boy.com
>> Last.FM Music Blog -> www.last.fm/user/chuuzetsu
>> 
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:26:55 +0100
>From: "Paul Rangecroft" <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Requiem vs. Butcher
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>is this really so surprising? a single grungy synth note played over and
>over again - of course if you align the pitch and frequency they'd sound
>very similar. probably played on the same keyboard.
>
>On 8/17/06, James Osborne <james_social at circlewithadot.net> wrote:
>>
>> So I did a little experiment. I sped Requiem up to 200bpm's but lowered
>> the pitch by -8 semitones. The opening synth line then sounds almost to
>> a T the same as the synth line in Butcher.
>>
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>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:30:07 +0100
>From: "Paul Rangecroft" <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Requiem vs. Butcher
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>This confirms my long-held suspicion that Youth is 'The Stig'.
>
>When the druggie trance-head saw they wanted someone to provide repetitive
>loops while speeding on a show called 'Top Gear' how could he resist?!
>
>On 8/18/06, Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> You should get out more!
>>
>> Having said that, I was just watching Top Gear at work
>> (I know, I know...) and they used Pandemonium, Exorcism
>> and Invocation as background music.
>>
>> I should get out more.
>>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:32:25 +0200
>From: "John Carville" <John at PRIO.NO>
>Subject: [kj] Re: French interview
>To: <gathering at misera.net>
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>Here's a translation of one interesting bit from the French interview posted by Lizzzzz from Amsterdam (see http://heavymusic.free.fr/heavymusic2/interview/itwkillingjoke/itwkillingjoke.php):
>
>"Le bassiste Paul Raven a été occupé par l'album de Ministry. Du coup a-t-il eu une contribution importante sur cet album de Killing Joke ?
>
>(Rires). Pas de commentaire. Killing Joke c'est Geordie et moi. Il y a 12 albums de Killing Joke, Geordie joue la basse sur 10 d'entre eux. Pff ! Et également la batterie sur 3 d'entre eux. Je fais tout le reste. Au bout du compte, j'adore jouer avec ce mec. C'est un super guitariste, il sonne comme un mur de 4 guitares à lui tout seul. Pour moi, travailler avec Geordie Walker est un privilège. Benny notre batteur, les jeunes sont ceux qui deviennent meilleurs. Tu n'as pas besoin des vieux. C'est la même chose avec la basse. Tu as besoin de plus d'énergie et de précision. Les standards musicaux doivent restés à un niveau élevé. Killing Joke est un son et un style de vie. Le look n'est pas important. La célébration est tout ce qui compte. Voilà c'est tout. Tant que Geordie continuera à vouloir faire ça, Killing Joke continuera de vivre. Nous continuerons à faire de la musique et chaque album doit être meilleur. Nous essayons toujours de nous améliorer et de nous surpasser."
>
>Translation:
>
>"Q. Bassist Paul Raven has been busy with the Ministry album. As a result, has he made an important contribution to this KJ album?
>
>A. (Laughs). No comment. Killing Joke is Geordie and me. There are 12 KJ albums. Geordie plays bass on 10 of them. Pff! And the same goes for the drums on 3 of them. The bottom line is, I love playing with this guy. He's a fantastic guitarist. He's like a wall of four guitars all by himself. For me, working with Geordie Walker is a privilege. Benny our drummer... Young people keep on getting better. You don't need old people. It's the same with the bass. You need more energy and precision. Musical standards must be kept at a high level. KJ is like a way of life. The image isn't important. The celebration is all that matters. That's it. As long as Geordie keeps wanting to do it, KJ will continue to exist. We'll keep making music and each album will be better [sic]. We try always to improve and to surpass ourselves."
>
>Jaz also claims Tool's Danny Carey as a pal, and says Danny once played with KJ.
>
>Maybe someone else will chip in with some other paragraphs...
>
>But, why is Jaz standing with (practically endorsing) two different Coca-Cola products in the pictures? Has he no shame?
>
>JC, Oslo
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:41:19 +1200
>From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Re: French interview
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>putting the web page thru babelfish is quite amusing...
>
>" I N'do not manage to calculate in euro but we recorded this album
>with 20 books per day, in a cellar and with material of shit. "
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:53:07 +0100
>From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
>Subject: RE: [kj] Re: French interview
>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
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>>"material of shit. "
>
>Hahahahaha!
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:46 AM
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>> Subject:      Re: [kj] Re: French interview
>> 
>> putting the web page thru babelfish is quite amusing...
>> 
>> " I N'do not manage to calculate in euro but we recorded this album
>> with 20 books per day, in a cellar and with material of shit. "
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