[kj] RE: Melotonin

P Bernardi phantasmas at erols.com
Sun Aug 13 09:12:46 EDT 2006


Have u tried Courtald Talks? I pass out everytime!

GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> I've tried several different sleep meds over the years, including 
> Melatonin, Ambien, and another I forgot the name of. None of them did 
> anything to help my hyperactive, 140 lb. body fall asleep--in fact, 
> they seemed to keep me more awake. The only drug that's done anything 
> useful is Lunesta--it doesn't so much put me to sleep (nothing is 
> capable of that, not even elephant tranquilizers), but it helps me 
> stay asleep with a minimum of wake-ups during the night. If you wake 
> up before 8 hours, you feel groggy, but that passes after the 8 hours. 
> Now, excuse me while I stay up.
>
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>     From:  "shaun" <shaun23 at ukf.net>
>     Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>     band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>     To:  <gathering at misera.net>
>     Subject:  [kj] RE: Melotonin
>     Date:  Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:16:26 +0100
>     >Hi all
>     >
>     >Just like to add that I have used melatonin for about five years
>     now, for
>     >Insomnia.
>     >I don't use it like everynight, just at the times I can't sleep.
>     When I have
>     >heavy bouts
>     >off sleepless night I may take it twice a week, but these are
>     rare now days
>     >thanks to Melatonin.
>     >
>     >And now I maybe need them, 2-3 times a year. And have suffered
>     non of the
>     >side effects mentioned.
>     >
>     >In the past, I was put on all types of sleeping tabs by the Dr
>     all had bad
>     >side effect, but thats a different story.
>     >
>     >N'EWay, the one thing I like about melatonin is that you don't
>     feel like
>     >crap the next day, and I've never found them to make me drowsy
>     >they just allow me to sleep as normal.
>     >
>     >Then at the end of the day, if you do anything to excess it's
>     normal ends up
>     >being bad for you.
>     >
>     >Shaun
>     >
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>     >Today's Topics:
>     >
>     >    1. Re: Re: melatonin (Papa Lazarou)
>     >    2. RE: Judas Nut (Jpwhkj at aol.com)
>     >    3. Re: Judas Nut (NoGGer4228 at aol.com)
>     >    4. RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list (Juliet Pleming)
>     >    5. Re: RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list (Tim Bucknall)
>     >    6. Re: RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list (woody2shooz)
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>     >Message: 1
>     >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:08:08 -0700 (PDT)
>     >From: Papa Lazarou <circuit_bender at yahoo.com>
>     >Subject: Re: [kj] Re: melatonin
>     >To: gathering at misera.net
>     >Message-ID: <20060811230808.11657.qmail at web60819.mail.yahoo.com>
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>     >
>     >nope, not very empirical, but yes, if you want to look around.
>     >   just the same as screwing with serotonin, dopamine etc etc...
>     >
>     >jo <arcadia at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >   It's used in the dog world too.  To help with stress -
>     particularly with
>     >things like noise phobias - fireworks etc.  Can't say that I've
>     had any
>     >success but I've only used it once and recommended it once but
>     some people
>     >swear by it.  Personally by the time you work out the correct
>     dosage you can
>     >sort out the problem behaviourally.
>     >
>     >   Gave it to my OH - didn't reduce his sex drive.  I'll have to
>     give him a
>     >bit more next time;-))  Hardly empirical evidence though.
>     >
>     >   jo
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >Adverse reactions associated with melatonin include stomach
>     discomfort,
>     >morning grogginess, daytime "hangover," feeling of a "heavy head,"
>     >depression, psychotic episodes (in combination with fluoxetine),
>     headache,
>     >lethargy, fragmented disorientation, amnesia, inhibition of
>     fertility,
>     >increased seizure activity, suppression of male sexual drive,
>     hypothermia,
>     >retinal damage, gynecomastia and low sperm count. Typically,
>     these reports
>     >are related to high doses. However, adverse effects have been
>     reported and
>     >can occur with low doses as well.
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>     >
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>     >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com.  Check it out.
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>     >Message: 2
>     >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:59:22 -0400
>     >From: Jpwhkj at aol.com
>     >Subject: RE: [kj] Judas Nut
>     >To: gathering at misera.net
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>     >I certainly didn't see this, nor hear about it in any of the gig
>     reports or
>     >set-lists.
>     >
>     >
>     >Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> writes:
>     >
>     > >I seem to remember Lightbringer getting played as well?
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     >
>     >Message: 3
>     >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:55:31 EDT
>     >From: NoGGer4228 at aol.com
>     >Subject: Re: [kj] Judas Nut
>     >To: gathering at misera.net
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>     >
>     >I got a set list from Nottingham, where Implosion is crossed
>     out,  so they
>     >were gonna play it but dropped it for some reason
>     >
>     >In a message dated 12/08/2006 08:59:50 GMT Standard Time,
>     Jpwhkj at aol.com
>     >writes:
>     >
>     >I  certainly didn't see this, nor hear about it in any of the gig
>     reports or
>     >set-lists.
>     >
>     >
>     >Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>  writes:
>     >
>     > >I seem to remember Lightbringer getting played as  well?
>     >
>     >
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>     >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:19:43 +0100
>     >From: "Juliet Pleming" <price-pleming at tiscali.co.uk>
>     >Subject: [kj] RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list
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>     >Hi everyone, how are you all?
>     >
>     >It's me - Juliet - remember me?
>     >
>     >Is anyone going to the mal damage gig tonight?
>     >
>     >I am, and I just wondered if anyone else was.
>     >
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>     >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:40:11 +0100
>     >From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
>     >Subject: Re: [kj] RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list
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>     >hey Juliet, welcome back
>     >have a great weekend
>     >all the best tim
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>     > > It's me - Juliet - remember me?
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>     > > Is anyone going to the mal damage gig tonight?
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>     > > I am, and I just wondered if anyone else was.
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>     >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:51:09 +0100
>     >From: woody2shooz <woody2shooz at yahoo.co.uk>
>     >Subject: Re: [kj] RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list
>     >To: price-pleming at tiscali.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing
>     Joke
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>     >welcome back Juliet
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>     >see you there!
>     >woody
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>     >Juliet Pleming wrote:
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>     > > It's me - Juliet - remember me?
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>     > > Is anyone going to the mal damage gig tonight?
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>     > > I am, and I just wondered if anyone else was.
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