[kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!

[bongo]

New Zealand... they play in Auckland sept 10..
got my ticket last weekend, so looking fwd to it!
love the new album too...

On 8/10/06, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I saw the Buzzcocks recently and they were very loud, but that was mostly
> the club's fault. They were also fired up for the show,and did a great mix
> of songs (including about 4 from the new cd to start off). What country are
> you in?
>
> Greg from Boston
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:  bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>
>
> Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject:  Re: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> Date:  Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:22:15 +1200
>
> >i'm going to see the Buzzcocks in a few weeks, (first international
> >band i will have seen for ages!),  i guess i should definately hunt
> >down some good ear plugs then...
> >
> >
> >
> >On 8/10/06, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>That's strange, we were just discussing the loudest gig we have
> >>ever been to
> >>the other day and mine was the Buzzcocks at the Abart in Zurich
> >>about 4
> >>years ago. That was getting uncomfortable so i know what you mean.
> >>
> >>Brian.
> >>
> >>
> >>On 09/08/06, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In terms of the noise cancelling `phones, I suppose they could
> >>help block
> >>exterior sounds (like traffic and subways and someone screaming at
> >>you to
> >>move out of the way before you're hit by the ten-tun truck rolling
> >>up behind
> >>you), but I don't think they're any safer for Tinnitus-prone ears.
> >> >
> >> > I do have a history of both sinus problems (partially due to a
> >>wonky,
> >>deviated septum) and inner ear trouble (lots of infections as a
> >>kid), so
> >>maybe it wasn't that Buzzcocks reunion show in `89 or that
> >>Guns'n'Roses show
> >>at the Ritz (when they filmed the vid for "You Could Be Mine"), but
> >>who
> >>knows?
> >> >
> >> > In any case, I'm still looking into accupuncture. At the very
> >>least, I'll
> >>satsify a long-standing curiosity about the practice, and I'm
> >>trying not to
> >>get my hopes up about any possible results.
> >> >
> >> > In any case, stay tuned.
> >> >
> >> > Alex in NYC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> >> > >Sent: Aug 9, 2006 8:25 AM
> >> > >To: gathering at misera.net
> >> > >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >> > >
> >> > >I have had problems with my ears even as a young child.  So
> >>naturally I
> >>went
> >> > >towards many shows and being in a loud band for over a decade.
> >>I
> >>remember a
> >> > >time onstage that my ear started to ring so bad that I was on
> >>my knees in
> >> > >pain.  My right ear is significantly worse than my left.
> >> > >
> >> > >To answer your question part of it can be diet.  My ear
> >>problems are also
> >> > >related to my sinus problems.  So of course no dairy.  And of
> >>course
> >> > >caffeine has its foot in almost all problems.  One way or
> >>another wear
> >> > >earplugs at all shows.
> >> > >I use headphones that lay on top of my ear as opposed to buds
> >>that go
> >>inside
> >> > >or the old style headphones that engulf the whole ear.  Yeah
> >>the sound
> >>isn't
> >> > >as good but that is the payoff.  And I try to keep the volume
> >>at half or
> >> > >lower.
> >> > >I have only used accupuncture for allergies and it did work.
> >>Surprisingly
> >> > >
> >> > >There are noise cancelling headphones from companies like Bose
> >>but I have
> >> > >not heard good or bad either way.
> >> > >
> >> > >Good luck
> >> > >
> >> > >Chris
> >> > >
> >> > >>From: "death wish" < dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
> >> > >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >> > >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net >
> >> > >>To: gathering at misera.net
> >> > >>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >> > >>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:24:11 +0000
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Hey Alex (and Stephane), sorry to hear of your ongoing woes -
> >>As I
> >>believe
> >> > >>I've mentioned here before, I've had tinnitus for 20 years and
> >>wouldn't
> >> > >>wish it on anyone.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I tried acupuncture about 10 years ago. I only went once, and
> >>there
> >>didn't
> >> > >>seem to be any effect. I'm sure practitioners would say you've
> >>gotta go
> >>for
> >> > >>a half-year or something.... I've heard Ginko Bilboa can
> >>alleviate
> >> > >>symptoms, but not for me. Those noise-cancelling devices sound
> >>interesting,
> >> > >>but I think with tinnitis, it's very hard to pinpoint exactly
> >>what's
> >>going
> >> > >>on. A hundred people could have very different things going on
> >>with
> >>their
> >> > >>hearing, and they could all have tinnitus.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I had my hearing checked last year and was happy to learn that
> >>although
> >> > >>tinnitis is connected to hearing loss, it isn't necessarily an
> >>indicator.
> >> > >>My hearing tested at the high-end of normal, which suits me
> >>fine, and
> >>makes
> >> > >>me much less stressed about the ringing than I used to be.
> >>Diet and
> >>stress
> >> > >>are factors. Caffeine and aspirin are common complicators.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I rarely go to live shows, and if I do, I've got earplugs in
> >>and I'm at
> >>the
> >> > >>back of the venue. I just looked into getting "musicians
> >>earplugs" and
> >>in
> >> > >>Toronto you can get a custom-made pair for $190, which seems
> >>like a
> >>small
> >> > >>price to pay.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I got an mp3 player about a year and a half ago, and also
> >>noticed my
> >> > >>ringing getting worse, so I've set strict rules on the volume
> >>I'll
> >>listen
> >> > >>to it at. My player displays a volume number, so it's easy to
> >>keep
> >>track.
> >> > >>There are a lot of places I don't even bother using it, since
> >>the sound
> >>of
> >> > >>the subway or street can be pretty loud to start with.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I found playing soft radio static would mask the particular
> >>sound I was
> >> > >>hearing, and in the first few years, that really helped me
> >>sleep. I
> >>think
> >> > >>the mind eventually adjusts so it's not as irritating as it is
> >>initially.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>T.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> >> > >>>Reply-To: Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A list about
> >>all things
> >> > >>>Killing Joke (the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> >> > >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >> > >>><gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke
> >>(the
> >>band!)"
> >> > >>><gathering at misera.net >
> >> > >>>Subject: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >> > >>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:16:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Hey gang,....
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>As many of you Gathering oldsters might remember from my
> >>whiney e-mails
> >> > >>>back in the day, I developed Tinnitus in my right ear back in
> >>October
> >>of
> >> > >>>1999. In the ensuing years, the persistent ringing more or
> >>less
> >> > >>>levelled-off (this after a two-year moratorium on
> >>headphones). In the
> >>last
> >> > >>>month, however, the ringing has inexplicably increased in
> >>volume and
> >> > >>>annoyance. I don't know if it's my diet or work-related
> >>stress or the
> >>time
> >> > >>>of year or being irresponsile with my iPod (that's probably
> >>it right
> >> > >>>there), but it's a bit worse than it has been.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>I was wondering if anyone out there in Gatheringland
> >>similarly suffers
> >> > >>>from Tinnitus and, if so, what are you doing about it? I'm
> >>seriously
> >> > >>>looking into trying accupuncture. It has a somewhat dubious
> >>track
> >>record
> >> > >>>of success in Tinnitus treatment, but if sticking needles in
> >>my head
> >>has a
> >> > >>>chance of liberating me from the demonic gremlin with an
> >>air-horn who
> >> > >>>lives in my head, I'm all fucking for it.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Anyone?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Alex in NYC
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>_______________________________________________
> >> > >>>Gathering mailing list
> >> > >>> Gathering at misera.net
> >> > >>>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
> >postponed indefinitely..."
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>
>
> Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject:  Re: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> Date:  Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:22:15 +1200
>
> >i'm going to see the Buzzcocks in a few weeks, (first international
> >band i will have seen for ages!),  i guess i should definately hunt
> >down some good ear plugs then...
> >
> >
> >
> >On 8/10/06, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>That's strange, we were just discussing the loudest gig we have
> >>ever been to
> >>the other day and mine was the Buzzcocks at the Abart in Zurich
> >>about 4
> >>years ago. That was getting uncomfortable so i know what you mean.
> >>
> >>Brian.
> >>
> >>
> >>On 09/08/06, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In terms of the noise cancelling `phones, I suppose they could
> >>help block
> >>exterior sounds (like traffic and subways and someone screaming at
> >>you to
> >>move out of the way before you're hit by the ten-tun truck rolling
> >>up behind
> >>you), but I don't think they're any safer for Tinnitus-prone ears.
> >> >
> >> > I do have a history of both sinus problems (partially due to a
> >>wonky,
> >>deviated septum) and inner ear trouble (lots of infections as a
> >>kid), so
> >>maybe it wasn't that Buzzcocks reunion show in `89 or that
> >>Guns'n'Roses show
> >>at the Ritz (when they filmed the vid for "You Could Be Mine"), but
> >>who
> >>knows?
> >> >
> >> > In any case, I'm still looking into accupuncture. At the very
> >>least, I'll
> >>satsify a long-standing curiosity about the practice, and I'm
> >>trying not to
> >>get my hopes up about any possible results.
> >> >
> >> > In any case, stay tuned.
> >> >
> >> > Alex in NYC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> >> > >Sent: Aug 9, 2006 8:25 AM
> >> > >To: gathering at misera.net
> >> > >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >> > >
> >> > >I have had problems with my ears even as a young child.  So
> >>naturally I
> >>went
> >> > >towards many shows and being in a loud band for over a decade.
> >>I
> >>remember a
> >> > >time onstage that my ear started to ring so bad that I was on
> >>my knees in
> >> > >pain.  My right ear is significantly worse than my left.
> >> > >
> >> > >To answer your question part of it can be diet.  My ear
> >>problems are also
> >> > >related to my sinus problems.  So of course no dairy.  And of
> >>course
> >> > >caffeine has its foot in almost all problems.  One way or
> >>another wear
> >> > >earplugs at all shows.
> >> > >I use headphones that lay on top of my ear as opposed to buds
> >>that go
> >>inside
> >> > >or the old style headphones that engulf the whole ear.  Yeah
> >>the sound
> >>isn't
> >> > >as good but that is the payoff.  And I try to keep the volume
> >>at half or
> >> > >lower.
> >> > >I have only used accupuncture for allergies and it did work.
> >>Surprisingly
> >> > >
> >> > >There are noise cancelling headphones from companies like Bose
> >>but I have
> >> > >not heard good or bad either way.
> >> > >
> >> > >Good luck
> >> > >
> >> > >Chris
> >> > >
> >> > >>From: "death wish" < dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
> >> > >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >> > >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net >
> >> > >>To: gathering at misera.net
> >> > >>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >> > >>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:24:11 +0000
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Hey Alex (and Stephane), sorry to hear of your ongoing woes -
> >>As I
> >>believe
> >> > >>I've mentioned here before, I've had tinnitus for 20 years and
> >>wouldn't
> >> > >>wish it on anyone.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I tried acupuncture about 10 years ago. I only went once, and
> >>there
> >>didn't
> >> > >>seem to be any effect. I'm sure practitioners would say you've
> >>gotta go
> >>for
> >> > >>a half-year or something.... I've heard Ginko Bilboa can
> >>alleviate
> >> > >>symptoms, but not for me. Those noise-cancelling devices sound
> >>interesting,
> >> > >>but I think with tinnitis, it's very hard to pinpoint exactly
> >>what's
> >>going
> >> > >>on. A hundred people could have very different things going on
> >>with
> >>their
> >> > >>hearing, and they could all have tinnitus.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I had my hearing checked last year and was happy to learn that
> >>although
> >> > >>tinnitis is connected to hearing loss, it isn't necessarily an
> >>indicator.
> >> > >>My hearing tested at the high-end of normal, which suits me
> >>fine, and
> >>makes
> >> > >>me much less stressed about the ringing than I used to be.
> >>Diet and
> >>stress
> >> > >>are factors. Caffeine and aspirin are common complicators.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I rarely go to live shows, and if I do, I've got earplugs in
> >>and I'm at
> >>the
> >> > >>back of the venue. I just looked into getting "musicians
> >>earplugs" and
> >>in
> >> > >>Toronto you can get a custom-made pair for $190, which seems
> >>like a
> >>small
> >> > >>price to pay.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I got an mp3 player about a year and a half ago, and also
> >>noticed my
> >> > >>ringing getting worse, so I've set strict rules on the volume
> >>I'll
> >>listen
> >> > >>to it at. My player displays a volume number, so it's easy to
> >>keep
> >>track.
> >> > >>There are a lot of places I don't even bother using it, since
> >>the sound
> >>of
> >> > >>the subway or street can be pretty loud to start with.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I found playing soft radio static would mask the particular
> >>sound I was
> >> > >>hearing, and in the first few years, that really helped me
> >>sleep. I
> >>think
> >> > >>the mind eventually adjusts so it's not as irritating as it is
> >>initially.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>T.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> >> > >>>Reply-To: Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A list about
> >>all things
> >> > >>>Killing Joke (the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> >> > >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >> > >>><gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke
> >>(the
> >>band!)"
> >> > >>><gathering at misera.net >
> >> > >>>Subject: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >> > >>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:16:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Hey gang,....
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>As many of you Gathering oldsters might remember from my
> >>whiney e-mails
> >> > >>>back in the day, I developed Tinnitus in my right ear back in
> >>October
> >>of
> >> > >>>1999. In the ensuing years, the persistent ringing more or
> >>less
> >> > >>>levelled-off (this after a two-year moratorium on
> >>headphones). In the
> >>last
> >> > >>>month, however, the ringing has inexplicably increased in
> >>volume and
> >> > >>>annoyance. I don't know if it's my diet or work-related
> >>stress or the
> >>time
> >> > >>>of year or being irresponsile with my iPod (that's probably
> >>it right
> >> > >>>there), but it's a bit worse than it has been.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>I was wondering if anyone out there in Gatheringland
> >>similarly suffers
> >> > >>>from Tinnitus and, if so, what are you doing about it? I'm
> >>seriously
> >> > >>>looking into trying accupuncture. It has a somewhat dubious
> >>track
> >>record
> >> > >>>of success in Tinnitus treatment, but if sticking needles in
> >>my head
> >>has a
> >> > >>>chance of liberating me from the demonic gremlin with an
> >>air-horn who
> >> > >>>lives in my head, I'm all fucking for it.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Anyone?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Alex in NYC
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>_______________________________________________
> >> > >>>Gathering mailing list
> >> > >>> Gathering at misera.net
> >> > >>>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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> >postponed indefinitely..."
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