[kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!

Wed Aug 9 18:22:15 EDT 2006

i'm going to see the Buzzcocks in a few weeks, (first international
band i will have seen for ages!),  i guess i should definately hunt
down some good ear plugs then...

On 8/10/06, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's strange, we were just discussing the loudest gig we have ever been to
> the other day and mine was the Buzzcocks at the Abart in Zurich about 4
> years ago. That was getting uncomfortable so i know what you mean.
>
> Brian.
>
>
> On 09/08/06, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > In terms of the noise cancelling `phones, I suppose they could help block
> exterior sounds (like traffic and subways and someone screaming at you to
> move out of the way before you're hit by the ten-tun truck rolling up behind
> you), but I don't think they're any safer for Tinnitus-prone ears.
> >
> > I do have a history of both sinus problems (partially due to a wonky,
> deviated septum) and inner ear trouble (lots of infections as a kid), so
> maybe it wasn't that Buzzcocks reunion show in `89 or that Guns'n'Roses show
> at the Ritz (when they filmed the vid for "You Could Be Mine"), but who
> knows?
> >
> > In any case, I'm still looking into accupuncture. At the very least, I'll
> satsify a long-standing curiosity about the practice, and I'm trying not to
> get my hopes up about any possible results.
> >
> > In any case, stay tuned.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> > >Sent: Aug 9, 2006 8:25 AM
> > >To: gathering at misera.net
> > >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> > >
> > >I have had problems with my ears even as a young child.  So naturally I
> went
> > >towards many shows and being in a loud band for over a decade.  I
> remember a
> > >time onstage that my ear started to ring so bad that I was on my knees in
> > >pain.  My right ear is significantly worse than my left.
> > >
> > >To answer your question part of it can be diet.  My ear problems are also
> > >related to my sinus problems.  So of course no dairy.  And of course
> > >caffeine has its foot in almost all problems.  One way or another wear
> > >earplugs at all shows.
> > >I use headphones that lay on top of my ear as opposed to buds that go
> inside
> > >or the old style headphones that engulf the whole ear.  Yeah the sound
> isn't
> > >as good but that is the payoff.  And I try to keep the volume at half or
> > >lower.
> > >I have only used accupuncture for allergies and it did work.
> Surprisingly
> > >
> > >There are noise cancelling headphones from companies like Bose but I have
> > >not heard good or bad either way.
> > >
> > >Good luck
> > >
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >>From: "death wish" < dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
> > >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net >
> > >>To: gathering at misera.net
> > >>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> > >>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:24:11 +0000
> > >>
> > >>Hey Alex (and Stephane), sorry to hear of your ongoing woes - As I
> believe
> > >>I've mentioned here before, I've had tinnitus for 20 years and wouldn't
> > >>wish it on anyone.
> > >>
> > >>I tried acupuncture about 10 years ago. I only went once, and there
> didn't
> > >>seem to be any effect. I'm sure practitioners would say you've gotta go
> for
> > >>a half-year or something.... I've heard Ginko Bilboa can alleviate
> > >>symptoms, but not for me. Those noise-cancelling devices sound
> interesting,
> > >>but I think with tinnitis, it's very hard to pinpoint exactly what's
> going
> > >>on. A hundred people could have very different things going on with
> their
> > >>hearing, and they could all have tinnitus.
> > >>
> > >>I had my hearing checked last year and was happy to learn that although
> > >>tinnitis is connected to hearing loss, it isn't necessarily an
> indicator.
> > >>My hearing tested at the high-end of normal, which suits me fine, and
> makes
> > >>me much less stressed about the ringing than I used to be. Diet and
> stress
> > >>are factors. Caffeine and aspirin are common complicators.
> > >>
> > >>I rarely go to live shows, and if I do, I've got earplugs in and I'm at
> the
> > >>back of the venue. I just looked into getting "musicians earplugs" and
> in
> > >>Toronto you can get a custom-made pair for $190, which seems like a
> small
> > >>price to pay.
> > >>
> > >>I got an mp3 player about a year and a half ago, and also noticed my
> > >>ringing getting worse, so I've set strict rules on the volume I'll
> listen
> > >>to it at. My player displays a volume number, so it's easy to keep
> track.
> > >>There are a lot of places I don't even bother using it, since the sound
> of
> > >>the subway or street can be pretty loud to start with.
> > >>
> > >>I found playing soft radio static would mask the particular sound I was
> > >>hearing, and in the first few years, that really helped me sleep. I
> think
> > >>the mind eventually adjusts so it's not as irritating as it is
> initially.
> > >>
> > >>T.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > >>>Reply-To: Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A list about all things
> > >>>Killing Joke (the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> > >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > >>><gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> > >>><gathering at misera.net >
> > >>>Subject: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> > >>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:16:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Hey gang,....
> > >>>
> > >>>As many of you Gathering oldsters might remember from my whiney e-mails
> > >>>back in the day, I developed Tinnitus in my right ear back in October
> of
> > >>>1999. In the ensuing years, the persistent ringing more or less
> > >>>levelled-off (this after a two-year moratorium on headphones). In the
> last
> > >>>month, however, the ringing has inexplicably increased in volume and
> > >>>annoyance. I don't know if it's my diet or work-related stress or the
> time
> > >>>of year or being irresponsile with my iPod (that's probably it right
> > >>>there), but it's a bit worse than it has been.
> > >>>
> > >>>I was wondering if anyone out there in Gatheringland similarly suffers
> > >>>from Tinnitus and, if so, what are you doing about it? I'm seriously
> > >>>looking into trying accupuncture. It has a somewhat dubious track
> record
> > >>>of success in Tinnitus treatment, but if sticking needles in my head
> has a
> > >>>chance of liberating me from the demonic gremlin with an air-horn who
> > >>>lives in my head, I'm all fucking for it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Anyone?
> > >>>
> > >>>Alex in NYC
> > >>
> > >>
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