[KJ]Raven and Ministry in Paris

[Alex Smith]

Cheers, Stephane -- thanks for the report. I still love that first Treponem Pal record!!!

Alex in NYC



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>From: frenchyfrenzy at free.fr
>Sent: Aug 4, 2006 12:13 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: [KJ]Raven and Ministry in Paris
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>Here is a short review of the whole day spent in Paris with Raven, Tommy, Al and
>Co.
>
>The Ministry’s gig was taken place at the LOCOMOTIVE approx 1.200 pers. and the
>show was sold out.
>The venue is situated in Pigalle just close to the famous Moulin Rouge Cabaret.
>It’s on the same avenue as the Elysee Montmartre’s venue.
>
>Met Raven at the beginning of the afternoon and the guy was as nice as ever.
>We took some nice pictures backstage as he doesn’t like to take himself too
>seriously ( and filmed it explaining that he was looking for a bass player job
>in a band and that he could even sing lyrics from a song called Psyche if I
>remember well ha ha ha !!!
>
. and we began a real laughing afternoon.
>
>We went out wandering in the Pigalle area through guitars shops, clothes shops,
>shoes shops and of course sex shops ;o))
>Concerning the famous KJ questions, I must say that he was quite “ surprised
>“with the latest news I had printed from the KJ’s website on the main page
>where they are speaking of Uncle Paul playing with Ministry at the Forum
>London.
>He said that it was a good thing that the Gems of Power were about to see the
>light of day because he could be paid for it ;o)))
>
>I don’t want to say who is saying the truth or not because I have  both versions
>of each side ( Jaz spoke a lot to me at the Mulhouse’s gig in April) and because
>this is not my business and I like both of the parties.
>In my opinion, I would say it’s basically an economical choice that led Paul to
>choose the Ministry’s recording and after the world tour.
>I think that after, there are some ego aspects surrounding the whole thing.
>
>I had printed some of my pictures taken backstage during the last KJ’s tour in
>Paris 05 and I had added some ”funny” comments on them about Paul, Jaz & Al
>Ministry and he had a lot of laughs watching them even if they have a “deeper”
>sense as the first sight.
>Unfortunately no chance of seeing him during the coming gigs in sept /oct 06
>because Ministry is touring Australia.
>
>Wandering in Pigalle and you get collared by all the door women of all the Lap
>Dances Clubs and Erotic shows and when you walk with a guy Raven with all his
>tattoes and his bad boy looking you are always approached and Raven always
>replies ha ha ha ha !!!
>I must say something : all those nice chicks were proposed to do nasty things
>for him in private ( in UK Or US but not in France ;o))) and all of them
>refused and so all of them have pushed us away from the club’s door using their
>most beautiful smiles.
>In France we would say that “the sprinkler was sprinkled”
>
>Jaz introduced me to Angie Jourgensen ( Al’s wife and manager) and she gave me
>an AAA pass in order I could walk everywhere without any problem.
>
>Raven made an interview wit Tattoos magazine with his mate Tommy Victor who was
>very tired but was drinking strong coffee to wake up.
>I remember one of his answer to the question “ why Ministry etc

>He simply answered that during the last 2 years he didn’t get many phone calls
>to offer him such a good job for several months


>The photographer of the magazine took many pictures of the 2 guys and when a guy
>like Raven confirms that tattoos can do some pain I can believe him ha ha ha 

>Backstage I met Mike Scaccia, John Bechdel  and Joey Jordison and of course the
>famous Al Jourgensen who loves French wines as Jaz Paul and Geordie.
>
>I must say that he was very very nice and maybe more excited than Jaz himself
>and that’s not common among human people.
>Maybe cause it was just a few minutes before the show and the excitement was
>easy to feel backstage.
>Of course we spoke about Jaz and some articles where he was apparently bashing
>him.
>There was no intention for Al to declare the war.
>He said that he spent many years with an old Jaz’s girlfriend and that it was
>his worst years so Jaz could thank him for that.
>Comparing to KJ’s backstage, I must say that the ambience was much more the one
>of a group, even if they are hired Pistoleros.
>KJ is much more Jaz & Geordie followed by 3 others musicians with a high
>difference of age and of course they can’t share the same things.
>But in both groups there is a common point :Al & Jaz are the Boss
>
>The show was very good and Paul and Tommy had a great presence on stage, maybe
>more than Al sometimes.
>Many of the old tunes were well played and it was like the new album and a best
>of the fav ( except Jesus built my Hotrod) because Al told me that he wasn’t as
>good as Gibby Haynes to sing it.
>
>I met a French ( bloody hell they were everywhere ) who was asked in the morning
>by Al to film the show with 5 cameras;
>
>Apparently, Al was completely exhausted at the end of the show and stayed in the
>bus tour.
>We went out for a drink with Paul and Marco from Treponem Pal and Amadou from
>Collapse ( French industrial groups ) and that was already 1 AM.
>Just before leaving, John Bechdel told me that he had been approached by Killing
>Joke and I replied to him that Jaz had always said good things on him.
>I asked Paul if we might have a chance to see him back in the Joke and he
>replied “ maybe “ and the bus went on to UK.
>
>Only idiots don’t change their minds
.
>
>
>Stéphane “ Frenchy Frenzy”
>
>
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