[kj] Killing Joke was right

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Mon Nov 21 16:02:32 EST 2005


All this & all I care about is whether I can watch the telly... tell me how
evil I am... Go on..
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Papa Lazarou
  Sent: 21 November 2005 20:55
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: RE: [kj] Killing Joke was right


  Inuits are starving. there's a drought in the amazon :[

  ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
    I bet you were jumping up & down with glee when you read that.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
    [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
    Sent: 21 November 2005 14:12
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
    Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke was right



    What a CHILLING story.

    Sorry.

    Alex in NYC


    -----Original Message-----
    From: GregSlawson at aol.com
    Sent: Nov 21, 2005 12:25 AM
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Subject: [kj] Killing Joke was right

    "I was born to see 2,000 years
    Of man's effect upon the planet
    Extinction seems to be a plausible risk
    Whatever happens well I'm part of all this."

    " I can see tomorrow/I can see the world to come
    I can see tomorrow/Hear the pandemonium"

    Published on Sunday, November 20, 2005 by the lndependent/UK

    The Big Thaw: Global Disaster Will Follow If the Ice Cap on Greenland
Melts
    Now scientists say it is vanishing far faster than even they expected.


    by Geoffrey Lean


    Greenland's glaciers have begun to race towards the ocean, leading
    scientists
    to predict that the vast island's ice cap is approaching irreversible
    meltdown, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.


    Lines on this satellite image of Greenland's Helheim glacier show the
    positions of the glacier front between 2001 and 2005. Image: I. Howat et
al.

    Research to be published in a few days' time shows how glaciers that
have
    been stable for centuries have started to shrink dramatically as
    temperatures in
    the Arctic have soared with global warming. On top of this, record
amounts
    of
    the ice cap's surface turned to water this summer.

    The two developments - the most alarming manifestations of climate
change to
    date - suggest that the ice cap is melting far more rapidly than
scientists
    had thought, with immense consequences for civilisation and the planet.
Its
    complete disappearance would raise the levels of the world's seas by 20
    feet,
    spelling inundation for London and other coastal cities around the
globe,
    along
    with much of low-lying countries such as Bangladesh.

    More immediately, the vast amount of fresh water discharged into the
ocean
    as
    the ice melts threatens to shut down the Gulf Stream, which protects
Britain
    and the rest of northern Europe from a freezing climate like that of
    Labrador.

    The revelations, which follow the announcement that the melting of sea
ice
    in
    the Arctic also reached record levels this summer, come as the world's
    governments are about to embark on new negotiations about how to combat
    global
    warming.

    This week they will meet in Montreal for the first formal talks on
whether
    there should be a new international treaty on cutting the pollution that
    causes
    climate change after the Kyoto protocol expires in seven years' time.
    Writing
    in The Independent yesterday, Tony Blair called the meeting "crucial",
    adding
    that it "must start to shape an inclusive global solution". But little
    progress is expected, largely because of continued obstruction from
    President George
    Bush.

    The new evidence from Greenland, to be published in the journal
Geophysical
    Research Letters, shows a sudden decline in the giant Helheim glacier, a
    river
    of ice that grinds down from the inland ice cap to the sea through a
narrow
    rift in the mountain range on the island's east coast.

    Professor Slawek Tulaczyk, of the Department of Earth Sciences at the
    University of California, Santa Cruz, told the IoS that the glaci er had
    dropped 100
    feet this summer.

    Over the past four years, the research adds, the front of the glacier -
    which
    has remained in the same place since records began - has retreated four
and
    a
    half miles. As it has retreated and thinned, the effects have spread
inland
    "very fast indeed", says Professor Tulaczyk. As the centre of the
Greenland
    ice
    cap is only 150 miles away, the researchers fear that it, too, will soon
be
    affected.

    The research echoes disturbing studies on the opposite side of
Greenland:
    the
    giant Jakobshavn glacier - at four miles wide and 1,000 feet thick the
    biggest on the landmass - is now moving towards the sea at a rate of 113
    feet a
    year; the normal annual speed of a glacier is just one foot.

    The studies have found that water from melted ice on the surface is
    percolating down through holes on the glacier until it forms a layer
between
    it and the
    rock below, slightly lifting it and moving it toward the sea as if on a
    conveyor belt. This one glacier alone is reckoned now to be responsible
for
    3 per
    cent of the annual rise of sea levels worldwide.

    "We may be very close to the threshold where the Greenland ice cap will
melt
    irreversibly," says Tavi Murray, professor of glaciology at the
University
    of
    Wales. Professor Tulaczyk adds: "The observations that we are seeing now
    point
    in that direction."

    Until now, scientists believed the ice cap would take 1,000 years to
melt
    entirely, but Ian Howat, who is working with Professor Tulaczyk, says
the
    new
    developments could "easily" cut this time "in half".

    There is also a more immediate danger as the melting ice threatens to
    disrupt
    the Gulf Stream, responsible for Britain's mild climate. The current,
which
    brings us as much heat in winter as we get from the sun, is driven by
very
    salty water sinking off Greenland. This drives a deep current of cold
ocean
    southwards, in turn forcing the warm water north.

    Research at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute in Massachusetts has
    shown, that even before the glaciers started accelerating, the water in
the
    North
    Atlantic was getting fresher in what it describes as "the largest and
most
    dramatic oceanic change ever measured in the era of modern instruments".

    Even before these discoveries, scientists had shortened to evens the
odds on
    the Gulf Stream failing this century. When it failed before, 12,700
years
    ago,
    Britain was covered in permafrost for 1,300 years.




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