[kj] Undersung KJ songs

melinda grant hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 30 12:16:00 EST 2005


yeah,u r correct,u should believe what your instincts/gut feelings tell 
u-----i am interested in certain aspects of the occult-this area spans a 
very wide radious,there is alot to it,more than some people think--i have 
had interested in it 4 many yrs,well b 4 i had even heard of k.j.//how 
ever,just because a person is interested in something,does not mean they 
believe every single word to a hundred p.cent......i look at 
something-investigate completely-take from it what has proven to work 4 
me,then reject the parts that r obviously nothing but mind   bull///  i 
would not say that the occult is the same as religion,but i would say that 
religion(western at least) is a lot worse where controlling the masses 
--brain washing them is concerned,thats  the truely frightening thing,people 
involved in western religion,just cannot see that they r being manipulated 
at all--i have no time 4 western rels --
however,i do have a lot more respect 4 the eastern--far eastern type of 
higher level thought--buddist
ect,where things a based on cause n reaction,of the individuals approach to 
life --now that makes perfect sence to me......a tiny slice of what i think 
concerning all that............       mel

>From: "Peter Moltesen" <moltesen at freenetname.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
>Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:58:57 +0100
>
>you should believe what your instinct tells you to believe.
>Not what anyone else tells you to believe - there are sooo many who
>claim to be the next Crowley / Spare / Mickey Mouse and in my experience,
>99.9%
>of them are complete arseholes
>
>Peter
>
>
>
> > Is there any evidence that Occultism actually exists.I know the study of
>it
> > exists.But surely Occultism,witchcraft,magic ect ect is  doing exactly
>what
> > religion does.Empowers the holder of the information,And enslaves its
> > followers.
> >     As far as I can see there is no shred of evidence to make me believe
> > that Religion or Occultism  actually exists.
> >       PW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
> >
> >
> > > pandemonium albam,saw killing joke very much alive and awake,but on
>avery
> > > much higher levels,both intellectually and spiritually/occult wise-- 
>its
> > the
> > > top-top bolloks/just brilliant--although not every ones taste---may be
>for
> > > some,its just a bit to deep for them,but each to there own hey//i
> > personally
> > > rate it extremely high..............and as 4 excorcism--it still sends
> > > tingles down my spine,its that good..
> > >
> > >    mel
> > >
> > > >From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
> > > >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:56:51 -0500
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Frankly, both albums -- PANDEMONIUM and DEMOCRACY -- sound like the
>band
> > > >were "phoning it in" at certain points. EXTREMITIES and KILLING JOKE
> > 2003,
> > > >by comparison catch the band when they're legitimately ANGRY and 
>AWAKE!
> > > >
> > > >Alex in NYC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tuesday, March 29, 2005, at 06:55 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>First, I love Democracy. To me it was like fresh water after
>Pandemonium
> > > >>(which I don't hate, but honestly I rank it below the average) Aeon
>and
> > > >>Intellect are my faves on the album. Pilgrimage, Absent Friends, and
> > > >>Medicine Wheel are damn good too. Another Bloody Election, Democracy
>and
> > > >>Savage Freedom are good to me, but not in my top. The weakest -but
>still
> > > >>good-: Lanterns of Hope and Prozac People.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've always liked the mix of electric and acoustic guitar in the
>album:
> > > >>Savage Freedom, Democracy, Lanterns..., Pilgrimage, even the mighty
> > > >>Another Bloody Election; that sound texture gives a unique 
>atmosphere
>to
> > > >>the songs.
> > > >>And even when i rank this album high, i think a remix would be 
>great.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mis dos pesos
> > > >>
> > > >>Javier.mex.city
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> > > >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > >><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
> > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:08:25 +0100
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I decided to give it another listen.Intellect does have a nice 
>chunky
> > > >>>sound.
> > > >>>       I quite enjoyed it.As long as I try not to dwell on the fact
> > that
> > > >>>its
> > > >>>an ELO rip-off,The "Dog questions why he barks" lyrics and the bit 
>at
> > the
> > > >>>end which resembles the end of"You re so unbelievable" by EMF
> > > >>>       PW
> > > >>>P.S.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Did you hear about the Jewish Kamikaze pilot?
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>He crashed his plane into his brothers scrapyard
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: "Will E Scheipers" <wscheip1 at juno.com>
> > > >>>To: <vassifer at earthlink.net>; <gathering at misera.net>
> > > >>>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:38 PM
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Democracy has some definite gems on it. Aeon, Democracy, Absent
> > Friends,
> > > >>>>Medicine Wheel, Intellect, Savage Freedom. However throughout the
> > album
> > > >>>>Jaz seems to be in a lyrical rut.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>From,
> > > >>>>Will
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) Alex Smith
> > > >>>><vassifer at earthlink.net> writes:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>For me. "Aeon" is *ALL* about Geordie's riff, which sounds like
> > > >>>>>planet-sized
> > > >>>>>church bells. Pity about the production, though, busily muddling
>the
> > > >>>>>track with
> > > >>>>>technoey tweaks, indistinguishable percussion and needless
>rumbling,
> > > >>>>>which all but
> > > >>>>>renders Jaz's lyrics incomprehensible.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>As Rob suggest, it is *DYING* for a remix. Preferrably a simple
>one.
> > > >>>>>Strip away
> > > >>>>>Youth's bong-addicted filigree.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Alex in NYC
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>From: gregslawson at aol.com
> > > >>>>>Sent: Mar 28, 2005 10:40 AM
> > > >>>>>To: vassifer at earthlink.net, gathering at misera.net
> > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Actually, Alex, my faves are "Intellect" and "Medicine 
>Wheel"--both
> > > >>>>>remind me of old classic KJ stuff. I also like the lyrics to
> > > >>>>>"Democracy" and "Bloody Election". I didn't really like "Aeons"
> > > >>>>>until I named my 40th birthday party the "TAPping into the Aeons"
> > > >>>>>party (it was held at a bar with about 100 taps--no joke!).
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > > >>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > > >>>>><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >>>>>Sent: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:08:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> > > >>>>>Subject: [kj] Undersung KJ songs
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>On the way to work this morning, my iPod set to a random 
>selection
> > > >>>>>of `Joke
> > > >>>>>tracks, the melifluously malevolent strains of "Savage Freedom"
> > > >>>>>filled my
> > > >>>>>`phones. I'm not a big supporter of the DEMOCRACY record, but
> > > >>>>>**OOF** does this
> > > >>>>>track ever cook. Sure, it's a bit busy (was the acoustic guitar
> > > >>>>>necessary?), but
> > > >>>>>with the possible exception of "Aeon," it's the best thing on the
> > > >>>>>album.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Agree? Disagree? Others to discuss?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Alex in NYC
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