[kj] Post Punk

Christof hamille wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 25 19:58:59 EST 2005 

Agreed.  Maybe it is ironic (or maybe not) that the two people that left 
before Red PAtent are in the Heartbreakers

>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:55:04 -0500
>
>
>"It is better than the Dolls Red Patent Leather (3rd release)."
>
>Pretty much *ANYTHING* is better than that album.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 02:32 PM, Christof hamille wrote:
>
>>The first two New York Dolls is brilliant.  I like the Heartbreakers but 
>>really it was just an attempt at cashing in on the moment.  It is better 
>>than the Dolls Red Patent Leather (3rd release).  I would not call New 
>>York Dolls punk.  Rock n roll through and through.  They were definately 
>>instrumental in its rise (Just like the Stooges, the Dictators, the MC5, 
>>Radio Birdman, etc.)
>>
>>And I think that these bands (in their prime) has stood up quite well
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:56:44 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>Where do we stand on the New York Dolls and Johnny Thunders? Well, many 
>>>of them are dead these days, so it's easy to stand RIGHT ABOVE THEM.
>>>
>>>Wow, that was tasteless. I'll get my coat.
>>>
>>>
>>>Alex in NYC....who liked the `Dolls, but was never that big a fan of the 
>>>Heartbreakers (though Steve Jones cops to completely ripping off Thunders 
>>>in THE FILTH & THE FURY). Blame Thunders for the heroin too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 04:13 AM, vanessa luff wrote:
>>>
>>>>The thing is with the Ramones is that it never really mattered if you 
>>>>didn't like one of the tracks because if you just waited 2 minutes 
>>>>another one would come racing along...WAN, CHEW, FREE FAWAH!  It's Alive 
>>>>is probab;y one of the best 'live' albums ever wether you like the band 
>>>>or not, it really captures what they were all about.
>>>>
>>>>So where do we stand on New York Dolls and Johnny Thunders and the 
>>>>Heartbreakers?
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "peter.west410" 
>>>><peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:36 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"lead siner died of aids"      Freudian slip????????
>>>>>
>>>>>Alex: You re right,My knowledge of The Ramones is somewhat limited.I 
>>>>>shall
>>>>>give some of their songs a listen ,rather than judging them on 
>>>>>preconceived
>>>>>,possibly misconstrued, unreliable, pre-judged
>>>>>misconceptions..................
>>>>>      Which song do you recommend, that I listen to first?
>>>>>
>>>>>    PW
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Brian" <wittz at starsandmoon.plus.com>
>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:00 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >>Is Vic there
>>>>>>Department S
>>>>>>lead siner died of aids around 92
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:06 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Im not sure the artists names .But the songs
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Is Vic there.?  &
>>>>>> > Wheres Captain Kirk?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Should be included
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >   PW
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes its so true
>>>>>> > As we went warp factor two
>>>>>> > I met all of the crew.........................
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Graeme Rowland" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>> > <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:55 PM
>>>>>> > Subject: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > So who should be on a post punk compilation?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > You need at least
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Wire
>>>>>> > > The Fall
>>>>>> > > KJ
>>>>>> > > gang of 4
>>>>>> > > PIL
>>>>>> > > Pop Group
>>>>>> > > Birthday Party
>>>>>> > > Cabaret Voltaire
>>>>>> > > Throbbing Gristle
>>>>>> > > Swell Maps
>>>>>> > > Slits
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > --- Djehuti111 <djehuti111 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > (Bloody cheek, they didn't even include a KJ
>>>>>> > > > > track!)
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >  Or (this month's cover group) Joy Division or PiL
>>>>>> > > > or
>>>>>> > > > Gang of Four or The Birthday Party or about a dozen
>>>>>> > > > or
>>>>>> > > > more actual "post punk pioneers" that I can think
>>>>>> > > > of.
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >  Heh, I was a little brought down by the CD. ;)
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >  A L P
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > --- Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
>>>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > > anyone seen this months Mojo?
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > If I were Mr Coles I would be consulting my
>>>>>> > > > lawyers
>>>>>> > > > > . . .
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > http://images.q4music.com/content/teaserimages/mojo/cover_big.jpg
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > (Bloody cheek, they didn't even include a KJ
>>>>>> > > > track!)
>>>>>> > > > >
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