[kj] Pantheism v. theism?(Match postponed)

[Phillipps Marc]

>Apart from a few glaring errors 

Ability to spell, correct grammar & sentence structure etc 

;o)


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Paul Rangecroft [SMTP:paulrangecroft666 at yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent:	Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:00 AM
> To:	Geordie Wanker; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject:	Re: [kj] Pantheism v. theism?(Match postponed)
> 
> Very Good.You ve got me off to a tee.Apart from a few glaring errors ,Its
> quite convincing.
>          PR666
> 
> 
>  
> Geordie Wanker <spud.u.hate at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> i won't bother with the grammar since i've only got an hour but i'll
> give the buddhist perspective if anyone is interested. reject, agree,
> ponder or question as you please:
> 
> there are more hungry spirits on the planet than people. we just don't
> have the karma to see them directly. some people do have the karma to
> see particular spirits, e.g. the ghost rob moss saw.
> 
> enlightened beings are watching us all the time but they never judge us.
> 
> humans did not evolve from bacteria but arise in depence upon causes,
> mainly giving, moral discipline and patience. the continuum of the
> mind has no beginning and all sentient beings wander from life to life
> without much freedom or control, sometimes they are born as animals,
> sometimes human, sometimes in hell etc. it is not possible for
> something formless, i.e. the mind, to arise from form, e.g. t he body.
> there is a relationship between the mind and body, of course, but this
> ends at death.
> 
> buddhism in no way functions to enslave people or make them
> subservient. the statement below is hopelessly ignorant and too
> sweeping a generalisation. buddhism, if applied correctly, causes no
> problems whatsoever and can only function to make people happier.
> other religions have no inherent characteristics from their own side
> but can be used for good or evil, it just depends on your motivation.
> how can christian teachings on, for example, compassion possibly cause
> any sort of problems??? if religion is misused that is not the fault
> of the religion but of the person who is misusing it.
> 
> i personally don't believe in a god who is omnipotent but i do believe
> in enlightened beings who are omniscient, i.e. know all past, present
> and future phenomena directly and simultaneously.
> 
> i'm not quite sure what "the cobwebs or religion" is mean t to mean
> since religion is a personal experience and therefore not stuck in a
> particular time, but i'll say this: a mind contolled by anger than
> abides in a state of self-induced mental agony (i.e. peter west's)
> doesn't know the meaning of the word "free."
> 
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:13:27 -0000, peter.west410
> wrote:
> > Its an illogical question.
> > There is only Humans and Animals on this planet,No-ones going to come
> > down,No-ones watching and judging us.We have all evolved from bacteria
> from
> > millions of years ago.
> > All forms of religion and other ideologies are inplace to make the
> > general populace subservient. Religion enslaves the people.
> > Dust away the cobwebs of religion and free yourself.
> > 
> > PW
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