[kj] bpf

peter.west410 peter.west410 at ntlworld.com
Thu Mar 10 10:54:18 EST 2005


Do you know the reasoning for the management banning Mik's site?
  He was nt making much money,selling a nominal amount.And there is no
official release of these recordings.It would of benefited everyone if KJ
would of bought Mik on board,Advertised the site as official and charged 10
quid for a DVD.Everyone a winner.And I hope Mel never made an official
complaint about money and got Mik shut down.................ooopppsssss  Me
and my big mouth.

        PW




----- Original Message -----
From: <bernies at ntlworld.com>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf


> No, that's just to do with bootlegging. It's difficult to see how Mik's
videos would have affected sales of the legitimate product but let's not
start that discussion again!
> jerry
> >
> > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> > Date: 2005/03/10 Thu PM 01:20:40 GMT
> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
<gathering at misera.net>
> > Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
> >
> > Cheers for that, j. The business of royalties, et al, has always been
> > somewhat confusing to me. Now I get the idea behind publishing -
probably
> > why Mik Raven was asked to stop selling bootleg vids, etc.
> >
> > Hmmm...
> >
> >
> > ade.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
> > Sent: 10 March 2005 10:47
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: Re: RE: [kj] bpf
> >
> >
> > None of the band probably get any royalties from their first ten years
of
> > record sales. Any royalties earned are used to pay back advances,
recording
> > and marketing costs before the band sees a penny. KJ's royalty rate, in
> > aggregate, is probably no more than 10% of the price the dealer pays for
the
> > record and I doubt they've recouped what was spent on Outside the Gate,
let
> > alone the previous six albums.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure, however, that they've recouped their publishing deal
with
> > E'G hence they should all be getting royalties from performances, cover
> > versions, etc.
> >
> > I don't suppose they'll ever see a penny from Jaz Summers, though.
> >
> > Any questions?
> > j
> > >
> > > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 07:55:53 GMT
> > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > Subject: RE: [kj] bpf
> > >
> > > bpfSo... Mike has morals enough to pay C4B royalties to BPF, but is it
the
> > > case
> > > that BPF gets no other royalties? For all those groundbreaking albums
he
> > > played on & that sound he helped create?
> > >
> > > Smacks of a lesson learnt from Atkins!!!
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > > Behalf Of mike coles
> > >   Sent: 08 March 2005 19:32
> > >   To: gathering at misera.net
> > >   Subject: [kj] bpf
> > >
> > >
> > >   "As for Wardance, I'm sure Big Paul is still getting royalties...:
> > >
> > >   No he isn't.
> > >
> > >
> > >   oh yes he is...
> > >   from malicious damage records for chaos for breakfast which has two
> > > versions of wardance on it
> > >
> > >
> > >   cheers,
> > >   colesy
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