[kj] Two drummers

Fri Mar 4 21:19:35 EST 2005

I will believe you on the Glitter Band.  i don't even know if they made it 
over to the US in their prime.  I did see Yes with (almost) everyone in it 
and it was...good.  Not great.  I think having all of the people up there 
actually took some of the spark away.  In the sense of having to pull back 
because of all of the guitars, drums and keyboards.
Live in most situations is more impressive than record and part of that is 
visuals.  i have see Grateful Dead more times than I should have (which is 1 
to many) and it did nothing.  Deep into space. So what.  LAter day Pink 
Floyd had two drummers and it seemd more like the guy couldn't keep up and 
they had to have him there contractually.
meat Beat manifesto when they decided to play some of their instruments 
pulled it off okay.
Chaos UK - pointless

That is all I have at the moment

Chris

>From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Two drummers
>Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 23:52:40 +0000
>
>Ah, but did you ever see Gary Glitter live - with the two drummers. I'm not 
>making any great claims on their behalf, but it did work live and pissed 
>all over any actual records the Glitter Band made.
>
>While we're on the subject here's some more: Genesis (post Gabriel) did one 
>or two numbers with both Collins and Chester Thompson on drums. Fantastic 
>noise. Yes, on their union tour, used both Bil Bruford and Alan White to 
>great effect, and Bruford joined forces with Pat Mastiletto in King Crimson 
>for a season. And yes, I witnessed all this live (AND The Fall AND Gary 
>Glitter). Is anybody on the list any further away from street cred than 
>this?
>
>Si
>
>
>
>>From: "Christof hamille" <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Two drummers
>>Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 18:43:32 -0500
>>
>>I will give you the Fall but the Glitter Band is a grewat example of the 
>>hype being bigger than the band.  I am sorry.  And yes I ahve heard their 
>>early stuff.  Okay at best.  And two drummers did not help.  That is my 
>>bitter opinion
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>>From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Two drummers
>>>Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:41:44 +0000
>>>
>>>The Fall had two drummers at two separate points in their history - 
>>>worked well. The Glitter Band worked up a good old stomp with their brace 
>>>of drummers too - and a sound as close as you could get to KJ before KJ 
>>>arrived.
>>>
>>>Si
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: circuit bender <circuit_bender at yahoo.com>
>>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] If you could choose KJ's drummer...
>>>>Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:52:59 -0800 (PST)
>>>>
>>>>Dave Barb was better though, he did the same thing for bow wow wow as 
>>>>one guy too! ;]
>>>>
>>>>Djehuti111 <djehuti111 at yahoo.com> wrote:>If you listen to early Test 
>>>>Dept. or Crash Worship
>>>> >those are excellent
>>>> >examples of how multiple drummers should work
>>>> >together.
>>>>
>>>>Agreed!
>>>>
>>>>Hey, let's not forget Adam and the Antz!
>>>>
>>>>~A L P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Christof hamille
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I think Murder Inc., drumming wise, was on the edge
>>>> > of being phenomenal.
>>>> > But it just didn't sort out. The first pigface was
>>>> > like that to. I think
>>>> > it is a Atkins thing.
>>>> > Did the Grateful Dead need two drummers?
>>>> > BUT
>>>> > If you listen to early Test Dept. or Crash Worship
>>>> > those are excellent
>>>> > examples of how multiple drummers should work
>>>> > together.
>>>> >
>>>> > I somehow think that Killing Joke don't have the
>>>> > patience or time to work it
>>>> > out with two drummers much less one
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris
>>>> >
>>>> > >From: Alex Smith
>>>> > >Reply-To: Alex Smith ,"A
>>>> > list about all things
>>>> > >Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>>> > band!)"
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Subject: Re: [kj] If you could choose KJ's
>>>> > drummer...
>>>> > >Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 01:57:37 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >It would sound like Murder Inc.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >I never understood the appeal of two drummers. It
>>>> > just becomes a shuffling
>>>> > >rumble.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Alex in NYC
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >-----Original Message-----
>>>> > >From: sade1
>>>> > >Sent: Mar 4, 2005 1:26 AM
>>>> > >To: Alex Smith ,
>>>> > > "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> >
>>>> > >Subject: Re: [kj] If you could choose KJ's
>>>> > drummer...
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Though my knowledge of drummers is brief, I
>>>> > wonder what a
>>>> > >proper drum-duo (a la Bill Rieflin and Martin
>>>> > Atkins ca.1989-era
>>>> > >Ministry tour)would sound like playing for Joke?
>>>> > > I'd nominate Grohl to play under BPFs guidance
>>>> > for the next
>>>> > >tour of world-domination.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >--- Alex Smith wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > 1. BPF, of course.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >... ... ... ... ... ...
>>>> > >As the masters rot on walls
>>>> > >And the angels eat their grapes
>>>> > >I watched picasso
>>>> > >visit the planet of the apes
>>>> > >
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