[kj] Gigs, less violent...?

Shadforth, Jane SUKOP-OFI/3521 jane.shadforth at shell.com
Thu Mar 3 13:27:11 EST 2005

I don't think anybody wears clogs anymore, (very silly fashion item I always thought) - but my shins were black & blue permanently when NMA still toured frequently...
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Subject: Re: [kj] Gigs, less violent...?

Ahhhh tHE Meteors,  trifling at the font with the Wrecking Crew was always a mighty dodgy place to be.  Nowadays, its still as worrying as they are now all about 20 stone!
I saw the Macc Lads far too many times to be sensible but never saw any trouble - there seems to be an upsurgance of their material round here (Lincoln is a bit behind...)
NMA gigs are a bit bruising too - must be all the clogs.

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From: Wittz <mailto:wittz at starsandmoon.plus.com>  
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Subject: Re: [kj] Gigs, less violent...?

The worst violance I saw was at a Macc Lads gig (remember them ?) in Blackburn in the 80s.
To getter a better view I had managed to grab a chair and was stood on it just off the dance floor when, not to unexpectedly, it kicked off. It was a great view watching all the fighting below me on the dance floor, that was until one guy decided to brain a another guy with a chair, unfortunately for me it was going to be the chair I was stood on at the time. Needless to say I ended flat out when he ripped it from under me.

Remeber early Vibrators tours cancelled half way through due to stabings.
Angelic Upstarts gigs were always dodgy due to the NF crew that had aligned themselves with the band which Mensi hated


Oh and Dickies gig used to be non too pretty at times.

On Thu Mar 3 8:24 , iPat <pmdavies at gmail.com> sent:

The Meteors had in their road crew some of the highest profile
football fighters of that time. The lead singer was sent away for
murder wasnt he? I recall them wandering around one gig with a
baseball bat looking for someone who had thrown a plastic glass full
of beer at them on stage.

btw the crass recording [out on cd] in perth of the skinhead/bnp
attack throughout the gig was off my cassette in the mixer. Not only
was it self survival but we were trying to protect the band and the
younger punks the whole night. I was hidden in the back of the Poisen
Girls ambulance and dropped off in Edinburgh so i wasnt hunted down
that night!

the worst security was always in ipswich and Colchester as they used
the squaddies from the local garrison. I recall the end of the Ramones
gig being particularly violent in 78/79. Penetration in Colchester was
dangerous as well.

At a Clash gig they went over the top in Ipswich and a week or so
later Siouxsie and The Banshees came on their first tour which saw a
revenge attack planned although i cant recall what happened as i was
caught up with the band.

i recall a major off at one of the open air gigs in a London park,
maybe Crystal Palace circa 83 a march for jobs do.

Bristol was always dodgy and Birmingham when roadieing.

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