[kj] Youth

circuit bender circuit_bender at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 28 13:13:21 EDT 2005


Youth had more 'feel'. 
 
melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:
ooooooooooooooooo,very cutting"youth sounds like he taught himself to 
play,wrong", ;-D but as u said,he was original at least,i carnt help being 
fond of youth,i knew him,i still dont know raven,we just do not meet on any 
level--infact,i kinda feel uncomfortable around him,where as with 
jaz--gordie,i feel very at ease,as if i have known them 4ever......
n when paul n youth were around,the same,but raven!!!!!!! i carnt understand 
it either.

mel ldn uk.

>From: Alex Smith 
>Reply-To: Alex Smith ,"A list about all things 
>Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>,"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:09:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>
>
>I think Raven is "technically" the better player, but Youth had more 
>definable style (I can't think of another bass player who sounds like he 
>does on the first three records). Youth sounds more like he taught himself 
>to play (i.e. "wrong" but cultivating an inimitable style). That said, I 
>can't hear any of that style on PANDY through KJ2003, suggesting that his 
>time away from the instrument may have have cost him that style.
>
>Raven, by contrast, is a dependably competent player, and seemingly always 
>has been.
>
>ALex in NYC
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Bucknall 
>Sent: Dec 31, 2000 9:02 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
>
>should have read "in tune" when comparing raven's playing to youth's post 
>92
>playing
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tim Bucknall" 
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>
>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 1:00 AM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
>
>
> > i think the reason you can hardly hear raven is more down to the mixing
>that
> > his actual playing,
> > the mixing on his first prong album, makes me want to trash the speakers
> >
> > i agree that youth was better than good on the first 3 albums, he was
> > extraordinary,
> >
> > as for the Bass on KJ 03 the ones i can actually really hear is "House
>that
> > pain built" which is obviously raven and implant which is apparently
>Geordie
> > according to the people that know this stuff
> > and apparently some of it is programmed,
> > It's so brilliant Having Raven back, because it basically means that 
>they
> > can play anything they want live, any songs from any period, can be
> > performed tightly and tune
> >
> > i'll prob be on the chat for a bit if anyone else is bored, if i vanish
>its
> > because i've being forced to talk to my relatives :-)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "melinda grant" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: [kj] Youth
> >
> >
> > > youth was a better more choppy--melodic and even funky twang bass 
>player
> > > than raven--u can hear his lv of and 4 the bass in any early 
>works--just
> > > compare the difference to raven---half the time,i can hardly hear 
>ravens
> > > bass--thats now bland it is,n yes youth did write those bass lines 
>--his
> > > bass lines in the early days--of course he n gordie would improvise
> > > ect--chuk idears bak n 4th,but youth knew his stuff,he was no 
>slakker-n
> > > gordie knows his stuff,they complimented each other beautifully n
> > > intensly---as 4 k.j.o3 the bass is pritty heavy on that,n really 
>rather
> > > good,at last after all these yrs,raven is catching up with youth,but 
>its
> > > taken bloody yrs,n in the end,youth is the better of the 2.
> > >
> > > mel ldn uk. ps get youth bak full time jaz,u know it makes sense.
> > >
> > > >From: bluce ree 
> > > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > >
> > > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > >
> > > >Subject: [kj] Youth
> > > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:39:19 +0100 (BST)
> > > >
> > > >This has probably been discussed before but anyway...
> > > >
> > > >Did Youth actually write the basslines on KJ, WTF and
> > > >revs? Things like Exit, Empire Song and Chop Chop
> > > >have such brilliant basslines that manage to be subtle
> > > >but amazing. It compliments the guitar work rather
> > > >than attempting to double it.
> > > >
> > > >It makes you wonder if Geordie showed him what to
> > > >play. Especially when you consider how rubbish he was
> > > >on Pand on Democ (as the big shot producer I'm sure he
> > > >wouldnt let Geordie tell him what to play that time).
> > > >
> > > >For me KJ have never matched those early albums and I
> > > >think the bassplaying is a major reason. Raven is
> > > >great but tends to go with the obvious bassline.
> > > >
> > > >Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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