[kj] kj] [OT] Jewish American Support for Dubya

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Is this Peter West?

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I think you are completely mistaken,The far right Jews(orthodox) believe
that their messiah will come down and lead the jews to the promised land
(Israel)
As the messiah has not come yet ,They regard the present state of Israel as
being an imposter.
Indeed these Jews are apposed to the present day Israel state just as much
as the Palestinians are.
They assume because a present day Israel exists ,The messiah wont come.
Mark :You are talking bollocks.






It's not only that, but it's commonly believed -- former Congressman
Dick Armey said it out loud on national cable TV -- that one of the
prerequisites for the second coming is that Israel would own all the
land the Palestinians are currently standing on, and therefore the
Palestinians need to be kicked out so Israel can annex the West Bank
so Jesus will come back. Naturally the Israeli far-right does not
object to more land even if it doesn't help bring the Messiah (for the
1st time by their count).

I get the impression Jesus would not get involved in disputes about
land. "Dad, I'm not going back there -- they've missed the whole
point!"

--Mark

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:06:57 -0500, Alexander Smith
<vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Jewish Americans support President Bush because he will never let
> Israel down (regardless of what he might tell you about a "road map to
> peace").
>
> The Bush Administration gives unilateral support to Israel -- which is
> one of the key grievances Al Qaeda et al. have with us (the other being
> our military presence in Saudi Arabia). But, dig a little deeper: *WHY*
> does Bush unilaterally support Israel? Because they're an arguable
> beacon of "democracy" in an otherwise theocratic region? Maybe, but
> many have suggested that it is because Bush himself is an Evangelical
> Christian, and as such believes that the emergence of a Jewish state in
> the land promised by God to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is divinely
> ordained. Moreover, the existence of Israel is apparently essential to
> the return of Christ (y'know....if you're stupid to believe in that
> sort've thing).
>
> It's just yet another grievous violation of the separation of Church &
> State.
>
> Ale xin
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