[kj] RE Joke vs Crew...???

Pat Tofield pat at latenitelabs.com
Thu Jan 6 16:34:52 EST 2005


Listen.....
 
...I'm sorry but I cannot abide the idea of Killing Joke doing a 'warm
up' slot for Motley Crew...I don't care what the financial (or
otherwise) reasons are....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:51 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Arena Shows
 
Sounds like a regular gathering to me!

--- Graeme Rowland <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

"a gaggle of mediocre hasbeens" 


> From: "Christof hamille"
> <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:22 PM
> Subject: [kj] Am I Allowed...?
> 
> 
> > Should I be upset at the current state of
> Killing Joke? Should I feel
> > uneasy that the people that support them get
> easily looked over and
> > squashed?
> >
> > I am not mad (not now...I was) that they are
> playing with Motley Crue.
> More
> > disappointed. Sure they will play larger venues
> and Raven may very well
> be
> > a good friend of Nikki Sixx. But so what. I have
> always been for
> diversity.
> > I always am for making the crowd think. The
> early days of punk and
> > post-punk showed that you could have two, three,
> four or more completely
> > different bands play together and have a great
> show. But the big,
> > significant, difference between those shows (and
> in all actuality they
> still
> > happen today) is that the audience member is not
> paying well over $30 and
> > going to a stadium. And I do not care who you
> are or who the band is
> there
> > will always be a siginificant difference between
> club shows and arena
> shows.
> > You cannot charge $50 for a club ticket. You
> also cannot have the kind
> of
> > lighting and sound system that a stadium can. So
> the arguement of Killing
> > Joke reaching a wider audience is mute. People
> are there to see Motley
> > Crue. The only thing getting wider is probably
> their wallets.
> >
> > But what upsets me even more is the situation
> wth Malicious Damage and An
> > Irrational Domain. Not only does the action
> against these two fans speak
> > against everything Killing Joke stand for it
> also speaks against fans of
> any
> > sort showing their interest in this band. Now
> lets be honest here. HAve
> > you looked at the Backstreet
> Merchandise...merchandise. It would be cool
> > (at best) if there was no place like Malicious
> Damage...but there is. The
> > t-shirts are quickly scanned and placed on a
> shirt without an ounce of
> > consideration that it is art. The pins look to
> be a quick turnover. Mr.
> > Coles is not only providing material that is
> thought through BUT is the
> > artist behind it. Does that not say
> anything??!!? I am not sure of the
> > situation in the past between Killing Joke and
> Mr. Coles but I am guessing
> > that his art was not nearly paid the amount it
> is worth. Mr. Coles not
> only
> > should have the right to sell this (which is
> significant in amount) to
> > survive but also to keep the name alight during
> many times when the flame
> > wasn't even smoldering. These are quality
> products that ...unfortunately
> I
> > cannot purchase.
> >
> > Thank you Killing Joke.
> >
> > It seems that I, somehow, think less of you
> >
> > sad
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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