[kj] Am I Allowed...?

[woody2shooz]

if  I remember rightly (1st time for everything) then Colesy sold the t-shirt rights to this bunch. They have a contract with Killing Joke (am i allowed to spell that in full?) to sell these t-shirts. 
This all happened last year too, with mr summers, but Mike resolved the issue. Over a cup of tea, allegedly

graham
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rob's Arse 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] Am I Allowed...?


  You ain't the only one confused!



  --- "juliet pleming" <pricepleming at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

  From: "juliet pleming" <pricepleming at tiscali.co.uk>
  Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:12:27 -0000
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
  Subject: Re: [kj] Am I Allowed...?

  Dear All

  I find it strange that KJ can tell Mike Coles not to sell KJ merchandise on
  Mike Coles website, but can carry on selling Mike Coles merchandise on KJ
  website. Maybe I'm just not up to date with it all or maybe they just
  haven't updated their website.

  Juliet
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Christof hamille" <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
  To: <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:22 PM
  Subject: [kj] Am I Allowed...?


  > Should I be upset at the current state of Killing Joke? Should I feel
  > uneasy that the people that support them get easily looked over and
  > squashed?
  >
  > I am not mad (not now...I was) that they are playing with Motley Crue.
  More
  > disappointed. Sure they will play larger venues and Raven may very well
  be
  > a good friend of Nikki Sixx. But so what. I have always been for
  diversity.
  > I always am for making the crowd think. The early days of punk and
  > post-punk showed that you could have two, three, four or more completely
  > different bands play together and have a great show. But the big,
  > significant, difference between those shows (and in all actuality they
  still
  > happen today) is that the audience member is not paying well over $30 and
  > going to a stadium. And I do not care who you are or who the band is
  there
  > will always be a siginificant difference between club shows and arena
  shows.
  > You cannot charge $50 for a club ticket. You also cannot have the kind
  of
  > lighting and sound system that a stadium can. So the arguement of Killing
  > Joke reaching a wider audience is mute. People are there to see Motley
  > Crue. The only thing getting wider is probably their wallets.
  >
  > But what upsets me even more is the situation wth Malicious Damage and An
  > Irrational Domain. Not only does the action against these two fans speak
  > against everything Killing Joke stand for it also speaks against fans of
  any
  > sort showing their interest in this band. Now lets be honest here. HAve
  > you looked at the Backstreet Merchandise...merchandise. It would be cool
  > (at best) if there was no place like Malicious Damage...but there is. The
  > t-shirts are quickly scanned and placed on a shirt without an ounce of
  > consideration that it is art. The pins look to be a quick turnover. Mr.
  > Coles is not only providing material that is thought through BUT is the
  > artist behind it. Does that not say anything??!!? I am not sure of the
  > situation in the past between Killing Joke and Mr. Coles but I am guessing
  > that his art was not nearly paid the amount it is worth. Mr. Coles not
  only
  > should have the right to sell this (which is significant in amount) to
  > survive but also to keep the name alight during many times when the flame
  > wasn't even smoldering. These are quality products that ...unfortunately
  I
  > cannot purchase.
  >
  > Thank you Killing Joke.
  >
  > It seems that I, somehow, think less of you
  >
  > sad
  >
  > Chris
  >
  >
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