[kj] OT Planespotting (queries)

Mon Feb 21 13:53:35 EST 2005

RE: [kj] OT Planespotting (a tad long, sorry)Okay, to satisfy the curiosity of both Juliet & Lisa Gannon, I can confirm the following :

a) There was no sex in the prison van (at least between the Coppins - LOL). There was an Albanian man constantly throwing up. To be honest, the sight of Paul & Lesley squelching away would have had me heading for the sick bucket.

b) The whistling was actually something that did happen but I can't remember if we did it on that journey. More likely in the corridors of Nafplion prison. That and "The Great Escape" and I'd like to think that I was the catalyst for it all, cos that's my kinda humour.

c) There was so much artistic license, several times the characters appeared to be merged. For instance, the final impassioned defence speech by Paul Coppin never happened but our defence lawyer from Kalamata did deliver something very similar, which was quite impressive, so they rewrote history.

d) The only remark that my character uttered that I have any recollection of saying was about the first day incident at Tanagra where I said "oh, we're not going further down there are we" or words to that effect. Some 100 yards or so from the perimeter fence, Paul took the vans down a muddy sodden dirt track. Guess what ? We got stuck in the mud. Military jeeps came out & we were bundled off to the local station, cos it had been incorrectly reported by locals that we were taking photographs. Some 8 hours later & after being interrogated at length and processed films showed no photos had been taken, they said we are free to go (at 9pm) & they even advised us of local places to stay overnight. Not exactly how it was told in the drama !!!

e) With so much twisting of the facts, I think it comes across as about 90% fiction. Many folks I have spoken to at work agree with other's view here that the Coppins came across as very sad. Had I known how it would have been scripted, I would have refused to have taken part. 

f) The money issue was swept away with a scene where the Coppins say that the Daily Mail has paid their bail money but we would have to find our own. This is an appalling continuity error as in order to be there talking with Lesley we would have already been released and therefore everyone's bail was already posted. Twats. Bail money comes back (or at least it should). It is not an issue but lawyers fees are.

Anyway, whatever, as folks say these days. F*ck 'em. Life moves on. We've got gigs to go to ! 

Regards,

Antoni

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Juliet Pleming 
  To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
  Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [kj] OT Planespotting (a tad long, sorry)

  We watched the program last night. I quite enjoyed it - liked the T-shirt. What a nightmare to live through. Can’t help thinking some poetic license must have been used…like the sex in van bit, with you all singing ‘Always look on the bright side’ or maybe not, truth is often stranger than fiction. I dunno, but I thought they had made it into quite good TV, whether it was true or not.

  Other thing I really was riveted by was ‘Sweet Sixteen’ about the young boy gangster, the night before.

  Really looking forward to Thurs and Fri – Wahooooooooo!

  Juliet

  -----Original Message-----
  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
  Sent: 21 February 2005 15:08
  To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
  Subject: RE: [kj] OT Planespotting (a tad long, sorry)

  >I actually thought it wasn't all that good as a piece of "drama". 

  It was rather poor wasn't it . . 

  >Easily forgotten, so I think your fine reputation remains intact Mr Adamiak! 

  Indeed, you shall remain the person who falls asleep over a curry to us :o) 

  -----Original Message----- 
  From:   Rob's Arse [SMTP:joker at Z6.com] 
  Sent:   Monday, February 21, 2005 3:03 PM 
  To:     A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Subject:        RE: [kj] OT Planespotting (a tad long, sorry) 

  The fat brummy twat was the saddo! 

  I actually thought it wasn't all that good as a piece of "drama". Easily forgotten, so I think your fine reputation remains intact Mr Adamiak!

  --- Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> wrote:

  From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
  Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:32:06 -0000
  To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
  Subject: RE: [kj] OT Planespotting (a tad long, sorry)

  >you didnt come out of it too bad mate

  I was thinking the same . .

  They could've found an actor who looked a bit like you though :o)

  Marc.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: iPat [SMTP:pmdavies at gmail.com]
  > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:14 PM
  > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Planespotting (a tad long, sorry)
  >
  > FWIW
  > you didnt come out of it too bad mate, a bit of a moaner but then i
  > dont you! ; ))
  >
  > however the coplins (?) looked like a right bunch of imbeciles. The
  > people watching it with me werent too impressed of felt any feelings
  > to them. They were portrayed more as sad gits than the others and if
  > the guy is that size then he seriously needs a diet. I cant belive the
  > sex in the van bit as she couldnt have got in with a gut like that!
  >
  > nice killing joke tee shirt in the film though!
  > im listening to radio 5 and i think they might be covering it later
  > on. ill send an abusive email against them!
  >
  >
  >
  > On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:46:12 -0000, antoni at clara.net I intend to make
  > a reasonably early start
  > > at the Goldhawk Tavern on the Thursday ... Friday may be a bit more
  > subdued
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