[kj] OT: Tookie and Arnie

[gingoblin at easynet.co.uk]

Yeah, I understand the "what about the victims" argument, but I really 
don't believe that anyone against the death penalty doesn't have the utmost 
sympathy for the "victims".   It's like you gotta preface everything you 
say with some sorta mention of you also caring for the poor gits on the 
receiving end.   I take it for granted that someone who cares about 
injustice regarding the death penalty, also cares very much for the 
innocents on the receiving end of whatever took place.

In the example you give, yeah, by all means get those fuckers... I just 
don't believe the State killing them is the right way to go about it.  I 
could understand say, some relative killing them, or at least kicking fuck 
outta them... but I don't think there's more pre-meditated and cold-blooded 
killing than the death penalty. I sound like a broken record, but I just 
think it's totally fucked.

I read a book once, can't recall the name, but it was writings of various 
people on death row... and the whole thing of "you killed, so now we kill 
you" just ain't as black and white as many would make out.   Some of these 
people had made one (admittedly VERY fucked up!) mistake in their lives, 
and now they were gonna be executed.  No chance to try and make amends, no 
chance to try and put some good into the world, just death.   It's not a 
message I agree with that comes from that.


At 22:22 13/12/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>On 12/13/05, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk <gingoblin at easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I see where yer coming from, but as is always the case, I think I'd prefer
> > to continue being alive here than take a faster/unwanted/possibly
> > unwarranted journey to see-what's-on-the-other-side. I s'pose 'cos I think
> > there's nothing! I hope I'm proven wrong :-)  (not hell though!)
>
>bet your not going around playing the gangsta though are you!
>i'll play devils advocate
>Ive watched many young girls go on the game in Aberdeen seduced by
>free smack from gangsta wanabees up from England. A bit of brum cock,
>a bit of free rock and now you owe us so get out there and get the
>dosh.
>Someones teenage daughter servicing fat smelly salesman for £30 and
>soon she'll be found dead on a stairwell and no one will care because
>shes just another junkie.
>
>everyone doesnt want the gangsta to be executed but did anyone say
>anything to protect the girl?
>
>--
>Pat
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