[kj] Re: ot..the truth concerning me.

melinda grant hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Fri Dec 9 08:21:48 EST 2005 

i have put of posting this,as i do not think that it is a decent appraoch to 
bring this to the gathering,however,in hideside,i think that i have no 
choice,for its the only way u all will know the truth.

on the 16th oct,day b 4 the dvd charity playbak,a post was sent to this 
forum. this post was written by juliet plumming...in the post,there were a 
number of things said about me,so i am going to tell u a few home truths,as 
there is always 2 sides to a situation.

1.i was painted as not paiding all the money back 4 the k.j gig tix,that 
juliet had got me over net-incorrect

not only did i let juliet have all the tix i ordered(will exsplain later 
ok..)this was 4 in total,i said she could sell them and keep the cash for 
her self,but i also brought her 2 tix from astoria box office,did not ask 
for the cash,plus i sent her 50 pound 4 her troubles...

so i would say she made a profit from me,and defo not a loss.....now the 
reason that i said she could keep my teckets,was basically,after the rough 
treatment i recieved from a few gatherer,fueled by one person 
p.west(concerning the london bombings and me having been caught up in 
edgeware rd blast),i decided that i had had enough,so was not going to go to 
k.j gigs in
oct,as i was so discusted by the heartless approach  from only a few 
here,and as i was trying to get over the shock of blast as well!!!!!
at that point in time,i felt all i could do was rise above it,and transcend 
the situation,to be perfectly honest,i thought,if these people are going to 
be like that,then they are showing there true colours,
i dont want anything to do wiith such crule people(thats why i gave all tix 
bak to juliet to keep--plus
the cash i mentioned earlier--it was the least i could do,after her support 
during that time------

i had  phoned juliet  after not hearing from her 4 ages,i was concerned 
actually,i said that i may go to bris/brum gigs,this was in  early oct--she 
told me she was not going,i suggested i would come down to her house to 
collect tickets,pay again if she wanted,also i said i would take her tickets 
along,and sell them to another gather,who did not have any...as she was not 
going after all.

this was mon b 4 playbak event--i had been first on phone to get playbak 
tickets,which incidently,i brought i for juliet and boyfriend,to cheer her 
up,after hearing about what had happened to her son---we arranged to speak 
later,i phoned at 8.30pm which was the arranged time,but there was no 
reply,just an answer machine,by this point,i was very tired,was trying to 
fing out if it was necessary 4 me to travel to her the next day,to collect 
those tix she did not need,as she was not going----yes,i was anoid,i was 
trying to help her out,so i snapped a bit--due to tiredness--and as i 
thought she was being a bit selfish,i admit that i left a message on her 
machine,as she was not there at arranged time....

after all i had done for her to help in various ways,plus giving her 
moral--pratical advice concerning the issue with her son(this was after she 
sent me a very long em to myspace exsplaining the situation of his arrest 
ect--i gave as much support as i could)

i did not attend the barfly gig,as on fri 19th,at midnight,i was informed 
about the death of a very dear person to me--it knocked me 4   6---i was 
deeply sad about this--however,i did buy a tix,which i
was to collect on 21st sun at barfly,this i was told to do----
so i am sad i missed jester,but at least he got a bit of money from my tix 
;-)
i spent some of the evening on night of barfly gig talking to tim 
bucknal(ask tim!) the rest in quite contemplation,as i was in moring 4 lost 
life long mate ;-)

hope this has cleared up a few things,there are always 2 sides to a 
situation,this is mine--thanks 4 reading       cheers m.g   mel....ps  
juliet/me did arrange to me once,but we missed each other by 10 mins--well 
that happens to every one once in awhile..balated thanks to all who gave 
support to me during july on this list



>From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: The Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] ChartAttack review
>Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:15:10 +0000
>
>Cool - thanx for posting this  :)
>
>Flat Potato
>
>
>On 8/12/05 20:07, "death wish" wrote:
>
> > Killing Joke Can Still Laugh 25 Years Into Their Career
> > Wednesday December 07, 2005 @ 06:30 PM
> > By: ChartAttack.com Staff
> >
> >
> > Killing Joke
> >
> > Back in the '80s, Killing Joke gained popularity ˜ albeit in an
> > "alternative" way ˜ with reasonably upbeat pop songs such as "Love Like
> > Blood" and "Eighties." KJ fans, sometimes known as "The Gatherers," know
> > there's a lot more to the British band than the Weird Science soundtrack
> > would indicate.
> >
> > Killing Joke came screaming out of London in 1979 with a blast of
> > industro-metal mayhem, strange tribal rhythms and the doom 'n' gloom
> > wordplay of vocalist Jaz Coleman. The band's history is peppered with
> > unusual tales and events ˜ an interest in the occult, bursts of 
>violence,
> > living in Iceland and relocating to Prague, to name a few.
> >
> > Yet Killing Joke have survived, and not as a waning, aging unit 
>performing
> > past hits at casino shows. Twenty-six years later, the band are actively
> > playing and recording. Their quarter-century mark was celebrated by
> > anniversary shows in London that were captured for more than just 
>posterity
> > on a new DVD called XXV Gathering!.
> >
> > "We ran into the guys from [Enliven Entertainment] up in Montreal," 
>explains
> > bassist Paul Raven. "They did Disaster Pieces for Slipknot, and we 
>fuckin'
> > love that DVD ˜ it was shot well, well-edited, well-put-together.
> >
> > "I'm like, 'Well, let's see what these guys can do for us ˜ see if they 
>can
> > make a bunch of fuckin' old punk granddads look cool.'"
> >
> > The band chose to release the DVD, and a live album, "warts and all." 
>But
> > the warts are easily overlooked due to the quality of their performance.
> > Instead of paining over post-production tweaking, they chose to approach 
>the
> > DVD as a way to simply capture the atmosphere and the celebration as it 
>was
> > happening. To help them choose a set list ˜ no easy task, considering 
>their
> > longevity ˜ they went to The Gatherers for suggestions, which is 
>indicative
> > of the band's rapport with their fans.
> >
> > Killing Joke have also just finished mastering their new Hosannahs From 
>The
> > Basements Of Hell album, which will be released the first week of March. 
>"In
> > some ways it's like the best parts of our favourite elements of Killing 
>Joke
> > history, musically," Raven says of the album.
> >
> > "Being in Prague, all living in the same place ˜ living and breathing 
>and
> > eating and shitting and sleeping together ˜ it's all just been much 
>more
> > cohesive this time."
> >
> > Raven describes the new material as being slightly different than the
> > group's previous work, with an audible element of Middle Eastern music 
>and a
> > few tracks with strings (Coleman has recently begun conducting for 
>various
> > orchestras). Lyrically, the album finds a different tone as well.
> >
> > "It's not so doom-laden as a lot of the stuff that we do," Raven says. 
>"It's
> > a little bit more 'Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and have a good 
>time
> > now before it all goes fucking face down,' you know."
> >
> > It's not hard to believe, speaking with the jovial musician, that the 
>band
> > aren't as dour as popular opinion might have you believe. They have 
>plenty
> > of reason to be positive these days, with a quarter-century behind them, 
>a
> > new album on the horizon and a new shot of vitality via the presence of 
>new
> > drummer Benny Calvert. As a result, the band have no plans to slow down 
>in
> > the foreseeable future. "We're going to do it until the fucking wheels 
>drop
> > off, and that's it," says Raven, who's currently in El Paso, Texas 
>recording
> > the new Ministry album with Al Jourgensen.
> >
> > "I think a big part of longevity with Killing Joke is we got a lot of 
>love
> > for one another, we really do, and that's something that is very thin on 
>the
> > ground in bands. Usually people sell each other down the street for a
> > fucking six-pack. When things are at their absolute worst, we just grin 
>at
> > each other and smoke a cigar, normally.
> >
> > "Then we always have drugs and crime to turn to if things get real bad."
> >
> > ËœJames Tennant
> >
> >
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