[kj] Barfly fight - pit fodder

[peter.west410]

>From my viewpoint I saw Raven swing at him with his guitar, like he was
trying to chop a tree down, and two or three guys (security) did jump on
him, forcible stopped him getting up,Tin was referring to the same incident,
the guys doing the restraining looked like everyone else in the audience
did,only one guy got dragged out the security exit all night, so it must be
the same one.

"No,I mean some guy getting his face smashed in and then being dragged out
of the emergency exit with someone holding onto his hair and being punched
at the same time.Think I saw a knee in there as well"

 I did nt see the guy stumble anywhere, I just saw him get on stage and get
thrown straight back off again.(he may have stumbled somewhere, but I did nt
see it)
   What we need is an action replay, Can Jason or Brian(or whoever was
taping) post the clip up for analysis.
   Jaz said he never saw the incident( was he wearing blinkers as well as
ear-plugs?) but he also said "Who cares because a lot worse things have
happened to Killing joke fans"(something along those lines anyway)
  Why I'm sure the guitar was used, is because I was actually looking at the
guy waving at his mates when he got hit.It was the back of the guitar, where
the strap is attached which made contact.


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Subject: Re: [kj] Barfly fight - pit fodder


Ok, "Butcher" one of the members of the message board was the guy who
climbed over the barrier onto the stage. He was heavily intoxicated,
and there is some speculation that something was dropped in his drink.
He was fine one moment, and the next was horribly messed up.

He was right next to me, and when he decided to climb up, as he rolled
over the barrier, he clipped the side of my head with his foot. He
landed into Ravens mike stand and on top of the chords on the stage. He
looked at Paul and motioned that he was going to dive. Then, after
laying there for a moment, he stands up and sort of staggers about, and
Raven shoved him back towards the side of the stage before he fell into
Ben's drums. When Paul pushed him, he sort of fell next to me, to my
right, and security took him off.

There was no brutality, no hitting with the guitar nothing like that,
and the guy is fine, but a bit embarrassed about the whole thing and
sends his apologies. Where anyone gets that he was hit with bass,
brutalized or anything like that is beyond me. Maybe from a different
angle it may have appeared that way, but he was NOT hit with the bass,
he was pushed. I was sitting about 3 feet away from the whole damn
thing.

As for what Coleman said to Peter, he simply said he did not see it, so
to him, nothing happened...go talk to Raven about it.





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